Despite Massive Shortages of the 80 GB PS3, Sony Reigns Victorious Over the Competition for April NPD Sales
Another outstanding month for Playstation fans as it has been revealed once again that the Playstation 3 is outselling the competition, despite massive shortages of the 80 GB PS3 in the United States. A few months ago, it was revealed that the 80 GB sales of the PS3 vastly exceeded the 40 GB version. Despite this, Sony made a tactical move that would potentially put them at a temporary lull for the next few months as they discontinue the 80 GB MotorStorm pack and would only be selling the 40 GB without PS2 backwards compatability.
Luckily for Sony fans, the wait will be worth it as the 80 GB will make a return on June 12th when the Metal Gear Solid 4 bundle releases. However, given the massive shortages of the 80 GB PS3 inbetween this timeframe, we have seen less sales than what is usually expected of the very strong Playstation 3 brand. Dare we say it, the PS3′s closest competitor (the Xbox 360) has actually managed to sell quite close to the PS3 over the past few months, though the PS3 has outsold the 360 in terms of year-to-date sales. At SDF, we expect the PS3 to remain relatively close to the 360 until June, where sales of the 80 GB PS3 will skyrocket from pent up demand. From there, the Playstation 3 will not look back. Here are the May NPD numbers:
Current Generation Sales:
PlayStation 3 187.1K
Xbox 360 188.0K
Please keep in mind when analyzing these figures that the Playstation 3 is supply constrained with no 80 GB PS3s on shelves. Further, the Xbox 360 has no supply constraint issues, but many of those Xbox 360s sold are actually owners of the Xbox 360, they are simply buying an Xbox 360 for a second (or third, or fourth, or fifth..etc) time due to RROD failures. Clearly, the PS3 has sold to more first time customers than the Xbox 360 has in April. It should also be noted that the Xbox 360 is significantly less expensive than the Playstation 3. The entry price for the Xbox 360 is only $279, while it’s $400 for the superior Playstation 3 console. The Playstation 3 is clearly on top in terms of next-generation console sales worldwide.
Last Generation Sales:
PlayStation 2 124.4K (127,000,000)
Wii 714.2K (24,500,000)
Moving on to last generation console sales, we clearly see that the Playstation 2 continues to dominate. It has sold an estimated 127 million in its lifetime, meanwhile the Wii has only managed to sell 24.5 million, baredly edging it over the other last generation consoles such as the GameCube and original Xbox. Wii still has a lot of catching up to do before Sony Defense Force can start becoming worried of it ever overtaking the Playstation 2 in terms of the last generation hardware race.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
The Wii has some catching up to do.
@erik – Can you please tell me what games you were into on your PS2?
I just don’t seem to get which games – if any – you like.
Just a quick question: The PS2 has been out for 8 years, and a system which has has a little over a year has done approximately 1/5 of the sales, how does that mean a victory for PS3?
Also, the “shortage” of 80GB PS3 doesn’t mean much. Most people want the cheaper PS3, so they can afford games for it.
The numbers are nice, showing PS3 is rising a bit, and it WILL rise more with some of the titles coming out soon. But this is not definitive.
Stick, please…for the love of your species, never breed, or donate sperm.
Wii is a current gen system btw!
And the SDF needs to commit suicide.
simply brilliant!
SDF always make my day
keep up the good work
So…SDF had to actually _remove_ the Wii from the “current generation” in order to say that Sony is somehow ahead of them in sales? Because “Sony Family” didn’t sell enough this month to beat either the Wii or the DS?
Honestly, I guess I was expecting SDF to take a month off and try and come back next month with NPD results, as Nintendo blew the crap out of them…but apparently, I was mistaken.
I’ve learned my lesson – you guys are much more creative than I gave you credit for!
Sales again? The Ps3 is going to be the top seller eventually, but that won’t make it any better than it already is, perfection cannot be improved upon.
Microsoft will be Sony’s assassin, its gun is the Xbox 360 and its ammo is Gears of War 2.
Have fun trying to mask and lie about the massive amount of money GoW2 will make compared to KZ2.
@ROFLCOPTER – Hehe… So umm when is that assassination happening? Because all over Europe and Japan the PS3 has caught up and surpassed the 360, even with that tiny 16 month window the 360 had. And let’s not forget how cheap the 360 is going for in Europe.
If Halo couldn’t kill the PS3 in it’s weakest moments. How in the hell is Gears gonna kill the PS3 with all the great games coming out for it?
Go and remove your HD-DVD drive.
@six1s – Go and watch your lil’ sister work out on your Nintendo balance board, if you wont, I will.
I find that last dig confusing, as I don’t have any younger siblings.
http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=185248
Maybe Stick and Paul should breed, no babies that way, and they are perfect for eachother.
Worldwide sales figures
1. Wii: 24.45 million, as of March 31, 2008
2. Xbox 360: 19 million, as of April 25, 2008
3. PlayStation 3: 13 million, as of April 21, 2008
Spread the Truth.
I love how the SDF can’t hide the fact that the only thing the PS3 is headed for is second place.
Considering that the 80GB has been discontinued I don’t see how there could a shortage…
http://kotaku.com/5009291/microsoft-on-ps3-getting-grand-theft-auto-iv-dlc
@Paul “perfection cannot be improved upon.” so there will be no need for a PS4? or PS5?
so in 100 years time when consoles are so advanced
with TB’s of RAM who knows,
Your grea great great grandchildren will be playing a PS3?
Bull.
Shit.
Has no-one heard of Microsoft’s three year replacement plan? Or perhaps the fact that Xbox 360 owners don’t have to pay for the repairs when covered by that 3 year plan? Or maybe the fact that repaired consoles aren’t included in sales figures? I don’t know how the hell they thought they could spin that in the least without telling outright lies, but then again… this is the SDF we’re talking about…
Oh, and I issue a challenge. As soon as you’re done coming up with that new and creative nickname, Paul, let’s see if you can offer an intelligent response without including a your mom joke, 4chan reference, or references to pwnage.
@NextgenMexian’t
At least a hundred years! Also they’re so reliable that my grea great great grandchildren will be playing the very same machine I purchased. I like to think I will be too, after it’s cured cancer it’s gonna cure ageing.
@Sixaxis
Shame on you! the rest of us are trying to have a serious debate, you can only act childish. Typical Wiier!
@paul Can your perfection run Crysis perfectly? or at all?
Eh… first of all, if your X360 RRODs, you don’t have to buy a new one, Microsoft repairs it free of charge. Secondly, the 80GBs are out of production, the last ones are going to be the MGS4 special editions. Thirdly, no current games console is that reliable. Most of this seventh generation will be dead within ten years through one problem or another.
Finally, ageing is caused by the action of free radicals (the chemicals, not the company)
But we have the 3 year RROD warranty!!!
I suffered two knackered 360s, neither of them RROD. The first forgot how to output a picture, though I still got sound which was nice. The second forgot how to output the disc tray. So don’t give Mr.RROD all the attention, 360s are riddled with faults which don’t all get a free repair.
I was lucky though, my second one broke well within the standard one year warranty, cool!
@seraphna – Once again, the 360 is only ahead 6 million units, after having 16 months of no competition, and priced a lot lower than the PS3.
That is nothing to brag about.
@Paul – You crack me up.
I like how a selling point for the 360 is that when it breaks down, M$ will bring it back to life, free of charge. Hilarious.
“for a second (or third, or fourth, or fifth..etc)”
RROD? Haven’t you beaten that to death already? Find something else about the 360. (if there is any)
It it just me or does that guy look like he’s a crackhead? Also, nobody wants to buy a PS3 more than once, I bought a second 360, cause I wanted tooooo.
@Stickemup
In fairness to them the failure rate is now WAY down to 16%. Basically a 1 in 6 chance of it being you…that’s like Russian roulette, nice!
@Unversed
“Find something else about the 360.(if there is any)”
You really are unversed in the ways of the 360.
@OMGWTFBBQ
You bought a second 360 to keep yourself entertained whilst waiting on UPS deliveries, be honest.
@ Gall
I take it you’re in some neo-Amish cult that represses advancement. Too bad your kiddies won’t be making the leap to virtual reality (assuming your kids could leap at all, as you’ve probably used your G-aysta-tion to clone yourself so you could have the most perveted se>< life possible).
Anyhow, nice move on SDF’s part suddenly excluding the Wii in their charts. They’ll probably put it back once So-n-y’s game starring a senile and decrepit 60 year old is released, and then Gu-erril-la’s Killz-on-e 2 movie.
@Wiiping
Angry much? You should be happy, your toy of choice is selling well. Apparently we argue about sales nowadays too, we’re expanding our argumentative horizons.
@Paul
Your “Down by 6 million units with 16 Months of a head start” argument, really has little merit. Most people, already have a 360, so purchasing two makes no sense. But since those people already do have 360′s, they may be picking up a PS3 as well.
Your flaunting that statistic, doesn’t mean the PS3 is taking over in the states. Just like Wii’s sales doesn’t mean it’s the best system in the states.
The fact is the PS3 needs to be outselling the 360, not selling close to the 360′s amount. Once it starts doing that regularly, then we can talk about how it’s going to beat the 360.
Secondly, I have two 360′s, we bought one from someone who was going to sell it to gamestop so he could get the Halo Edition, not everyone who buys a second 360 is because their first one broke, that would be pretty ignorant.
Also, Having a three year warranty, regardless of whether the system will break down or not, is a good thing, and it could very well be a selling point, just as much as the RROD is becoming moot point, not essentially a given, face it, the 360 isn’t called the Breakstation, and even if it was, it has a warranty, and I’d much prefer it than a error code no one understands (Yes, I went there, just getting annoyed). P.S. Play your games if your respective system is so much better, I’ll keep saying it, If you’re wasting your time talking about OmFg But My Systims soo MuCh bettAr to people who are already either A.fanboys, or B.people who already know what they like to play, and have made educated decisions based upon their personal preference and not how many consoles their respective system(s) moved in a single nanosecond. Call it rhetoric, but it’s rhetoric that can actually make sense, quit trying to influence others and try to play your games. I’m just trying to inject some common sense here.
@Duck
I think you mean Stickemup’s argument, and I’m afraid I didn’t really understand much of the rest you said…apart from that, nice name!
@Paul
Ah, you’re correct, I had misread. You seem to be the main figure head of the Pro PS3 grouping, so I had mistakenly lumped you in with Stickemup. My appologies.
@EscapeTheFate
Very true point. You’ve said things very, very well.
@Stickemup
My original post goes to you then.
“Your “Down by 6 million units with 16 Months of a head start†argument, really has little merit. Most people, already have a 360, so purchasing two makes no sense. But since those people already do have 360’s, they may be picking up a PS3 as well.”
Quoted for ease, and I love using Control V comands.
As usual Paul and Stick scurry away from my facts and proof.
http://www.thebitbag.com/2008/05/16/rumorsmash-no-bioshock-sloppy-seconds-for-ps3/
THE POWER OF CELL MAKES A GAME’S STORY BETTER!!!!1
Oh this article is full of so much fail that I’m going to have to go through it with a fine tooth comb to show the total room temperature IQ retardedness that is the short bus we call SDF. The Wii a last gen system? Well I suppose the only way a PS3 fanboy could deal with the utter rapings which have destroyed your Sony anuses via Nintendo is to pretend that they actually aren’t competition. Just keep biting down on that rag and and think happy thoughts. Maybe if you are nice and write to Nintendo they will mail you a bottle of lube.
The Wii is a current gen system fuckwits.
But like I said, the rest of the retardation will have to wait for a soon coming post.
@Stickemup
Right, looking at the entire PS2 library:
The “Bloody Roar” series
Bully
The Castlevania Series
Destroy All Humans
Devil May Cry Series
Dragon’s Quest VII
Fatal Frame series
Final Fantasy series
God of War series
Grand Theft Auto series
Katamari Damacy
Kingdom Hearts series
Megaman series
Metal Gear Solid series
Prince of Persia Sands of Time
Resident Evil series
Rumble Roses
Shadow of the Colossus
Silent Hill series
Sly Cooper series
Soul Caliber series
Ultimate Spider-Man
Xenosaga series
Ugh… fanboys. Can’t we all just accept that the PlayStation 3, Wii and Xbox 360 all have their strengths and weaknesses?
PS3
Strengths: Blu-Ray, Metal Gear Solid 4, Gran Turismo 5
Weaknesses: Dodgy backwards compatibility, PSN is rubbish, multi-platform releases tend to be worse on PS3
Wii
Strengths: Most fun to play, Nintendo’s first-party releases are brilliant
Weaknesses: Severe lack of third-party support, WiiFit is a dumb idea
X360
Strengths: Xbox Live, Halo 3, Orange Box
Weaknesses: Dodgy mechanical reliability, Pro’s hard drive is somewhat small.
Ps3
Strengths: Everything
Weaknesses:erm………
Wiii
Don’t make me laugh
X360
Strengths:erm……..
Weaknesses:everything
@Quinntan
“WiiFit is a dumb idea”
I whole heartedly agree with you on that but the balance board might add another level of immersion. We Ski has a good premise going on but if EA can work some more of that magic they did with Boom Blox then Skate It using the balance board just might be the shit.
No, I bought a second 360 so I could play 2 games at once. DUH.
Paul, it’s ok to fear the Wii.
It’s got you Sonyboys scared, and that’s ok.
It’s hard for Sonyboys to feel defeat.
Does suck that the PS3 is in a shortage, it’s selling pretty good resently despite it, which I guess shows Sony wasn’t all that ready for a big sales jump, they finally fell behind in supply, of all kinds, gamestop and Walmart the only two stores in my town that sell PS3s are out of stock which suprised me today when I went to the story to see if they had a Wii on shelf, since I got my PS3 the Wii was next on my list, but sadly darn Wiis are always out of stock here. 360 had 2 arcades, 4 normals and 1 elite on shelf still at Walmart alone.
@Sixaxis
“it’s ok to fear the Wii” I said DON’T make me laugh.
Only in a world gone mad, where sales are of more importance than performance, would someone admit to owning a Wii, nevermind brag about it.
@Paul
My brother owns a Wii, he only brags about his 360 though. I always found it odd we used to play Ace Combat 4 on the PS2 like crazy, then he got a XBox, wouldn’t play Ace Combat 5 or Zero at all. Ace Combat 6 came out on the 360 and he praised it as though it was a god. Bias definition fits well right there. >.<;
Shortages? every shop near me has PS3 boxes piled up high.
In my local gamestation the entire wall behind the counter is just GTA IV PS3 editions.
Also in that Gamestation they have an entire shelving unit just for GTA IV for PS3 and the shelving unit for 360 was bare. completely empty,
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Lol, why do i still come to this site?
Oh yea, for the lulz.
*makes popcorn*
Apparently, the Force Unleashed game will have online multiplayer capabilites available only to the Wii. Again, the failstation falls behind.
@ Paul
Massive, massive sales are, I would think, somewhat indicitave of quality, and tiny sales really don’t do much to support the notion of a $400 dollar God-machine. And how on earth did you pick up anger in my previous post?
@Denialboy
“I said DON’T make me laugh.
Only in a world gone mad, where sales are of more importance than performance, would someone admit to owning a Wii, nevermind brag about it.”
You owned a SegaCD didn’t you? It was also a mechanically superior system to its Nintendo competition, the SNES. And also got its ass handed to it in sales by said Nintendo system.
Wow SDF, soft. As someone who reads your site purely for laughs (…as I hope everyone does), that was pretty disappointing. I was really expecting something more than just ignoring the Wii. Hope you make up for it next time.
@erik
“You owned a SegaCD didn’t you? It was also a mechanically superior system to its Nintendo competition, the SNES.”
Actually the Sega CD was hampered by the technical limitations of the Genesis. The only thing that the Sega CD was able to do was add FMV and have the advantage of a larger storage medium. If you also owned the 32X it would increase the video quality of the Sega CD games but only if you bought a “Sega CD 32X” game (like Ground Zero Texas 32X). Even with the CD attachment it didn’t help improve peformance of the system at all so it still (besides the FMV and larger storage medium) was technically inferior to the SNES. But the Genesis was still a damn fine console though and the other attachments where not needed since it had a strong library of games in the first place.
Point being: Technical superiority doesn’t mean squat.
@erik
“Point being: Technical superiority doesn’t mean squat.”
I’m totally with you on that statement.
Technical superiority is important to some people. Supposing I’m on my way to buy a Ferrari and someone informs me that Toyota Corollas are outselling ferraris by 1000:1, I ain’t gonna cave in and buy the inferior motor just because it’s selling better.
@Paul
1000:1 other people feel otherwise though apparently.
@Paul
Just because its a Ferrari it doesn’t mean it won’t breakdown. Hell you could roll the car off the lot and it could blow a rod. Although you shouldn’t have to cave in to other people and what there buying as well. Then again just because you have a Ferrari doesn’t mean you’re a better person than others. Some people may even say its a waste of money to buy a Ferrari over a Toyota because they serve the same purpose; to get to from point A to point B.
I’d prefer a Challenger or a GTO. Does that mean I should play NES?
All I’m saying is the Wii has a broad appeal, it has captured the interest of those who aren’t normally interested in games, but I am! and I want the best, not the best selling. So when I here Wiiers saying…just look at the sales! I couldn’t really give a damn, it ain’t in the same league (performance wise) but I will still argue with you all, just because I like arguing.
Can’t believe I missed the opportunity…
@OldJello
There is no danger of my console blowing a rrod…ah that’s better.
@Paulina
But there is the danger of popping in a game (GTA 4) and making the console worthless if it crashes.
@escapethefate
“I’d prefer a Challenger or a GTO. Does that mean I should play NES?”
As far I’m concerned with your fine taste in automobiles, you can play whatever the hell you want. Personally I would choose a Cuda.
I give you greetings from the year 2025. Ninsonysoft has witnessed your bickering in the past and has sent me a diplomat. I see that Sony Defense Force is eagerly anticipating the releases of KillZone 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4. Meanwhile we are enjoying the recent releases of Beyond Good and Evil 4 and Final Fantasy Crystal Meth Chronicles: My Life in Rehab.
Lets not forget the 78 million users playing World of WarCraft 3: Argus, but enough of that. I see many people are up in arms about this blog, and it is my duty to observe and record this.
Please, contact me if you have any questions.
@DenialBoy, still in denial.
“There is no danger of my console blowing a rrod…ah that’s better.”
RROD? No. Code of Death? Yes.
@Keri
In the RRoD Vs CoD war, the RRoD has already won, that is a victory you xboxers are welcome to.
But you said that the PS3 NEVER breaks down. But the CoD proves that it does. Hence you are completely full of shit.
@ColdYellow: “The only thing that the Sega CD was able to do was add FMV and have the advantage of a larger storage medium.”
Larger storage medium wasted on games with incessant and unnecessary pre-rendered/recorded FMV?
Sounds similiar to something else. Just can’t put my finger on it…
@Mr. Paul
Hello, Mr. Paul. I have observed and recorded your past responses to people who have purchased Xbox 360s. Your main claim seems to be that the PlayStation 3 is a perfect video gaming console, and that the Xbox 360 will promptly activate the “Red Rings of Death” upon release from its retailing chain and into the average household.
However, facts state that more than one Xbox 360 has survived the, “Red Rings of Death.” Justify this.
Your Friend, Ninsonysoft
I’m curious to the SDF’s source is that there are shortages, let alone “massive shortages” on the PS3. I’ve never seen a store without a stack of them.
Yeah, these shortages are mysteriously absent from the media.
And the Playstation compared to the Wii is hardly like the Ferrari versus Corollas. Now, the Failstation is moderately priced (the Ferrari isn’t). So one could hardly, by the argument, claim that the PS3 is all that amazing, as most people don’t have a repulsion for great technology, as that’s all that could be left. Hence Wii sales are perfectly valid in argument.
@ ColdYellow
Your Ferrari comment is kind of funny, how you stated it would be equal to throwing a video game console out a window, and I doubt someone would crasha Ferrari unless they were a dunce, same for throwing something out the window.
@I Wiip
Wii is pretty bad, most of the people in my area don’t even own a Wii it’s either a PS3 or 360, and the 360 is the dominater here regretably, but I live in a backwater red neck vill so it’s just a forgone conclusion the most over hyped console, and has the glidderflish Halo series games would win out here. RedNecks love shiny things. >.<;
What I’ve personally seen thus far, the Wii has nothing really special about it, in fact the only reason I’m planing on getting the Wii is for the downloadable games for the SNES and N64, I kind of miss playing those on a TV screen and not my PC. lol
@Keri
I also said anything can break down (in another post), allow me to exaggerate a little FFS. The real problem lies in the failure rate, and like I said, the 360′s failure rate pwns.
@Lumina
You’re right, the Wii is pretty bad, but when you say “most of the people in my area don’t even own a Wii” maybe your not looking in the right places, have you checked the old folk’s homes and kiddie day care centres?
Sony has kinda always made the claim that you can’t find the PS3 well. Remember the whole “If you can find a PS3 in a store, I’d pay you 1200″ thing? And this was when they seriously HAD a limited number.
Every store I’ve gone to has had plenty of PS3′s around. The only system that is lacking was the Wii, which is still selling out within hours when they DO come in (according to my local Best Buy at least).
@Lumina
In what I’ve noticed, the Wii is really hit or miss on games. Unfortunately a lot of misses at times. For every game that gets the motion controls right (Boom Blox) there are dozens that don’t. But just like the PS3 as time goes on, people will know how to program for it, so it will feel special at some point. Right now, there are a handful are really good games, but a ton that aren’t.
Of course, a lot of those misses aren’t necessarily due to Nintendo’s sloppiness. 8 billion new developers came buzzing around the Wii when it was clear it was winning.
@Duck: “Sony has kinda always made the claim that you can’t find the PS3 well. Remember the whole “If you can find a PS3 in a store, I’d pay you 1200″ thing? And this was when they seriously HAD a limited number.”
And people were [i]still[/i] able to find the consoles in any store they walked into. I’m sure we all saw the Penny Arcade strip where they found enough PS3s within walking distance to “earn” over 20k, and that’s just stock that was sitting on the floor.
The only consoles that’s been truly unavailable was the Wii, and even then only in certain areas. The shortages here in Australia don’t seem tremendously common. Sometimes department stores run out, but the EB Games a two minute walk away will have a stack of ten of them.
Winning what? We can all clearly see that it’s way behind Ps2.
@Duck
True, but still I see the Wii as nothing more than a more advanced version of those silly buy with phone off TV commercial arcade systems where you swing a bat. I don’t find the concepts of a console designed for arcade style games all that apealing perhaps never will, but like i said before the only real thing that is moving me to get a Wii are all the old nintendo classics I havn’t played in years. Cost for them on the Wii is cheaper than getting them from a collector.
@ Kermi
Since when wasn’t this true? For the first 4-5 months of the PS3′s existence they ran into major shortages world wide, I couldn’t get my hands on one until Feburary the year later, then they were sold out again, and never really had a good stock in my area until late 2007 just before the Holidays. They had them in stock in good numbers for the Holiday boom season, and that stock is running low if not dry in some places, it’s dry here. You can’t really judge a shortage in everyones area, some areas PS3′s get shipped out in good quanity while other locations do not. If my town has none on shelf and you’re EB games place has plenty, thats proof alone that there is a shortage just because of my claim, if there was no then all locations would have enough of them to go around.
@DenialBoy
So the only way you can justify the PS3 is to deny that the Wii is a current gen system? Sad.
Very sad!
The only reason PS2 is still even being made is because Sony can’t make enough money off of the PS3.
Sonyboys know it too, they just can’t admit it, because to admit that Sony has faults is is admitting that Sony isn’t perfect. And religions frown on calling their deity of choice imperfect.
@Lumina
“If my town has none on shelf and you’re EB games place has plenty, thats proof alone that there is a shortage just because of my claim, if there was no then all locations would have enough of them to go around.”
Actually your claim is pretty empty. I can go all over my area and find 360s (if your persistant enough for the one you want) and PS3s (really easy to get one, hell have your pick between the 40, 60, or 80 gig) quite easily. Then again the economy in my region is also suffering big time so people have less money to spend on a videogame console. Maybe where you live the economy is better therefore people can spend the money on a gaming console but not where I live.
I have to admit it but Six1s comment is not only has some merit but it does sum up fanboys (of any console or anything) very nicely.
@Paul: Shouldn’t you be kinda worried that the venerable seven year old console is comfortably outselling the most powerful thing on the market?
@Everyone: Shouldn’t we be kinda worried that Paul isn’t being the prat he usually is?
Also @Everyone: Why can’t we all just get along?
@Quinntan
I’ve noticed, this one has been a LOT more civil than other posts.
I’m among the belief of play what you wish, but don’t lie about the competition. One should never treat the other sides like their foolish for their game choice. Which unfortunately is a reoccurring theme here.
@six1s
http://kotaku.com/390567/a-260-loss-per-ps3-for-sony
Sony’s own numbers show a negative $130 per PS3 (PS2 and PSP keeping things up) so it’s not the fact it’s not making ENOUGH, rather the systems themselves aren’t making anything.
@Wiip
Yes, there are a TON of poorly funded 3rd party guys flooding the Wii. But some, like High Voltage, seem to actually have a grasp on the tech, so I feel the Wii’s library will improve, and hopefully soon.
@Everyone – Sorry, too lazy to read all your posts since I last posted, but I’ll read from here on.
(That’s what I get for not keeping up for a day, what was I thinking?)
But I see that the PS3 is still outselling the 360 on a worldwide level, monthly. So all is good.
Aahh… Metal Gear…
Feels good to walk into Gamestop and see all those classy posters.
May I pose this question? Okay.
What are you anti-PS3 guys trying to accomplish with your rants?
Convince me that I should miss out on Metal Gear Solid 4? Socom? God of War? Ratchet? Gran Turismo? Uncharted? Heavenly Sword? Killzone 2? Little Big Planet? Final Fantasy 13? Team ICO? Warhawk?
I’m sorry, but no thanks.
If it just so happens that the 360 has a game that I might be interested in, I can just go out and get it for my PC. Simple as that. If I wanted to, I could go out and play Bioshock, Mass Effect, and Gears. But I wont, because I have enough games to play on my PS3.
I choose my console according to which franchises I’m into.
No 360 owner will ever get his hands on any of those great franchises unless they have a Sony machine.
One more thing, I love this quote:
“May 16, 2008 – You’re welcome — and encouraged — to read this preview, but the fact remains that you’ll never understand the jaw-dropping power of LittleBigPlanet until you play it. How do I know this?
Because I just played it for the first time, and I’m legitimately floored.”
You 360 kids can rant all you want. I NEED a PS3.
@stickemup
I’m going to be a little bias here but your ranting on how fucking great the PS3 is and here’s my answer: Whats so fucking great about it? Delay after delay, promised home last october where the fuck is it?, All these so called great games and the “just you xboxers wait” well guess what; I’m tired of waiting i want sony to show me NOW.
Heavenly Sword sucked, Killzone 2 does have a excellent chance of sucking as much as the first one, LBP doesn’t look all that remarkable since PC has been doing that shit for years, FF13 squeenix milking a franchise with more dudes that look like chicks, Warhawk (or Battlefield lite or even rock paper scissors) is just another shooter.
What are you anti-360 guys trying to accomplish with your rants?
I’m sure that LittlebigPlanet will get 7s and 8s at best. Then the Sonyboys will decree that not every title has to be perfect for Sony to dominate, even though since before launch they said that it would got nothing but perfect 10 quality games! They also decried anything that looks “kiddie”, and not “mature”. Well, this game looks like Animal Crossing with yarn people to me, pretty damned “kiddie” I’d say!
@Stickemup
“What are you anti-PS3 guys trying to accomplish with your rants?”
To show that perhaps the PS3 isn’t as perfect as its fanboys believe it to be, seeing as how SDF has to LIE to make it seem competitive against either the Wii or the PS3.
Were it really that great then it could rely on its own merit without deceptions.
Also:
“No 360 owner will ever get his hands on any of those great franchises unless they have a Sony machine.”
Thank god.
@Stickemup
I’m not out to prove anything besides that this place isn’t being truthful. It’s manipulating the data for it’s own good. Ignoring the bad, blowing up the good to way past anything that is based in reality.
Stick up for your console. Be honest about it though. There’s enough good about it to talk about and be honest.
@duck
Also look at the name of the site; Sony Defense Force. If Sony doesn’t do no wrong then they don’t need defending against anyone; but the writers for this site obivisouly see something is going wrong with sony and they feel they need defending.
@ColdYellow – Chill dude. I really wasn’t talking about you, but if the shoe fits, use it to stump a mud hole in a Wii.
The thing about me ranting, is that I’m doing it on a PS3 site, once again. You will never, ever see me at a M$ site dissing the 360. I stick to Sony exclusive sites, or only visit the PS3 section of them.
And the argument about trying to bring to light the lies, that I might add, make this site so hilarious, is a really bad one. Anyone who visits the site clearly knows what it is, it’s like if you guys are the only ones that don’t get it.
All I’m trying to do is convince you guys that there is no need to bash the PS3, there are millions of people who are happy PS3 owners, and there is nothing you can do to change their mind.
I love the LBP quote, and I know reading it made you bite your lips in agony. When do games come along anymore that bring up those type of emotions? Floored? Wow. He’s not the first, or the only one. Everyone who has touched LBP gets it. Simple as that. And some, like myself, don’t need to play it to see how incredible it looks. Am I 100% sure it’s going to be the second coming? Nope. Would I bet my PS3 on it? Yes I would.
My rants only come when I want to defend my console. They might also come up when new threads are posted, but I try to make it as obvious as possible that I’m going along with the joke.
But somewhere in the middle of every thread, the joke kinda wears thin, and you have the M$ crew come out and really bash the PS3, like if anyone is listening.
@Duck – Dude, I’m pretty sure we all know that already. And those who don’t, have a bigger problem than this console war.
I’m happy to tell you what I think the imperfections of the PS3 are.
Yeah that’s what seperates Sonyboys from everyone else. They can’t acknowledge that their console has any flaws.
PS3 has sold an estimated 127 million in its lifetime (8years), meanwhile the Wii has only managed to sell 24.5 million. Estimated??? what?? cant Sony even count the number of units they have sold?
Anyway class by using simple mathematics we can see that in 8 years the Wii will have sold 69 million more than the PS3.
@Sixaxis
“They can’t acknowledge that their console has any flaws”
You just need to give us time, the Ps3 hasn’t presened it’s flaws (if it has any) as quickly as it’s competitor did. Think back if you will to the 360 launch, there was a period of 2 or maybe even 3 days when people thought it was ok, it’s not that those xboxers were trying to cover up the RRoD and such, it simply took a couple of days before they realised the full horror of it all.
So give us time, if any problems arise we’ll let you know, we are a very honest and mature bunch.
SDF is good for two things, and it does neither of them well.
Jesus, you guys should work for the Obama campaign on damage control, or Hillary’s campaign on Bill control. For what its worth I own 2 360′s. On died due to the laser being farked because I DROPPED IT. Replacement parts due today, the second is my Halo 3 360. I take the 2nd to work and play while getting paid. Yeah its good to be me I guess.
As far as shortages go, the only place I ever see that never has PS3′s in stock is my local Kmart, but then again they never have any systems in. 360′s are kinda scarce, but PS3′s are in heaps.
Now let me add fuel to the flames that Sony claims the upcoming HAZE will he in HD, but Kotaku says otherwise, its not even in 600p and its upscaled. Superior my ass, my 360 pumps GTA 4 at 720, but the godly cell can not?
Let me finish with this nugget of wisdom, on paper you can be the biggest and baddest system in the world. And the system that is the most fun will kick your superior ass all over the place.
Yeah, little big planet is definitely the game of the forever.
Simply an amazing title that really defines what all this next-gen technology is all about.
@ Stickemup
From your previous posts, truth be told, You don’t seem to practice what you preach. It seems, as does this sight, though they claim to be Sony Defense, or defending, I find more veiled attacks and biased comments than actual ‘defense’. Apparently the best offense is a agressive offensive defense, If that’s even possible. That just confused me.
@EscapeTheFate – You think so? I really don’t. If you check my previous posts, they will always be in response to PS3 bashing. And if it isn’t, I make it pretty obvious that I’m IN with the joke. Hence the “HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA” at the beginning of my first post.
@BLACKY – Yes, indeed. If the Wii lives on for that long, then yes, it will outsell the PS2. BUT also, keep in mind that you’re assuming the PS2 isn’t going to keep selling. Which is a big mistake, when the price of it goes down to the “magical” $99.99, it will start selling even more.
I really don’t know what to think. What do you guys think? Will the Wii be around for that long? Or will it’s dated graphics, and lack of third-party support force Nintendo to make a Wii-2?
And one more thing BLACKY, the PS2 wasn’t being used by middle aged women doing Yoga. It’s so unfair to compare the Wii to any current, or past videogame systems.
I know for sure I use my PS3 to play games a lot more than anyone with a Wii.
And about the bashing, it’s okay if you guys bash the PS3. But just realize this site is supposed to be fun. Just look at how hilarious Paul’s and Hans’ comments are.
Join in the fun.
And for those interested, Haze has been reviewed by Famitsu and received two 9′s and two 8′s.
And it received a 9 from a Playstation magazine in Italy.
I’m still up in the air about this one.
Haze runs at 1024×576. The developers said they lowered the resolution so the framerate would be smooth.
The PS3 isn’t all that powerful after all.
Oh, and it requires a 4 GB installation. If you have a 40 GB model, it’s time to start uninstalling some games, because you’re going to run out of space soon.
i saw the comm on t.v. and it didn’t look that good graphics wise but that is only a comm
Lack of third party support?
Please don’t use that ignorant “point”. It just isn’t true.
There’s alot of third party games on the Wii.
I’ve played way more third party titles then first party.
If your going to push on the Wii’s low points, do it right. The Wii has low resolution graphics, doesn’t use AA, and doesn’t support HD resolutions. It’s also weaker in the processing power department. There is also no large storage device like an HDD.
@stickemup
It’s NOT fun though. You say about the “fun” of the site, but really it’s not funny. It’s sad. This site, makes the PS3 look worse. It slanders the PS3′s name, in my opinion.
Not only that, but calling sites like 1up and other gaming sites biased isn’t funny either. It’s giving the other sites linked on the side, a bad name (Well maybe not Major Nelson, he IS a big X box guy, I don’t read his stuff, but I’d imagine he’d be real supportive of the 360)
“Joining in the fun” as you say, just make you look bad. Paul and Hans are clearly biased to the point of me nearly being 100% sure they’re Sony employees, but they don’t help anything. Neither do you.
Now do ya’ll seem like you’re bad people? Of course not. But this just furthers the whole divide. Which is pointless.
@BLACKY
You can’t just project the 8 year sales like that. Despite the fervor for the Wii now, you can’t use that momentum for years. Eventually, those who rushed to have it now, will still have it. so the numbers will lower.
@stickemup
I will give LBP for looking (there I go again with the whole “looking” word again) fun and maybe has some interesting things going for it. The question is for how long will you be playing it? I thought I would be playing Brawl for a while and I didn’t. I had fun with the whole creating a level but even that gets old and eventually it got shelfed and no doubt the same will happen (unfortunatly) with LBP.
The Smash Brawl level creator is not anywhere near LBP’s league.
It got old because it’s terribly gimped and shallow. Not so for little Big Planet.
ok we get it little big planet you would fuck it if u could ok hans and yea level creator wasn’t that great and please can i c some defending not attacking
Hans, you don’t even know what LBP is going to be.
You haven’t played it.
@sm0ke – The fact that some developers aren’t skilled enough to make a game on the PS3 doesn’t mean the system is lacking in power.
Look at Uncharted, that game is friggin’ beautiful. And it’s a first-generation game. Look at the difference in graphics of the first generation PS2 titles to the ones at the end of it’s life, games like Shadows of the Colossus, God of War 2, FF10 and 12 look like they belong on another console.
If you don’t think so, look at Killzone 2, there might be speculation over how good the gameplay is going to be, but one thing is for sure, it’s going to look better than anything on the 360.
@six1s – Are you kidding me? You must really go out and play every shitty Wii game out there. There are very few decent third-party games on it. Even Zak & Wiki and No More Heroes are nothing too great, although I enjoyed the couple hours I played of both.
I apologize though, what I meant was that the high profile third-party games are going to be very scarce in the future, if things stay the same. Sales for Zak & Wiki and No More Heroes were pretty bad, and so was the support Nintendo gave them. I dont even think I saw commercials for either game.
Do you ever see Nintendo help promote third-party games? I don’t think I have. I’ve only seen Sony and MS do that.
That’s what I mean. If you don’t see that, then I would like to know what you do see.
@ColdYellow – You can’t possibly compare the level maker in Smash Bros. to LBP. I expect more from you OldJello
(Psst… although I was a bit dissapointed in Brawl, me and my buddies still play it religiously, and we love creating levels, and playing in other people’s levels. It’s so cool because other people create levels and do things in them that we hadn’t even thought of. Add it up.)
@stickemup
Yeah that was a shit comparison between the two games level editors. All I’m saying is eventually the fun of it will dry up or something else will come out and it will get shelfed
For all its worth I would like to play it.
Haha, Haze got a 4.5 on IGN. All flash and no substance. Sounds a lot like a game that will come out on the PS3 soon…. It starts with a K but I just can’t get my finger on it.
It’s still a weak argument.
I’ve played way more third party games which were good, then which were bad. High profile or no, they were good, and they were third party!
Also.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/875/875229p1.html
Another PS3 game that was supposed to “Kick Halo 3′s ass!”, but failed.
The problem is that too many fanboys buy into the hype that they themselves generate. When you play a game expecting perfection, and it’s not exactly what you hoped for, it’s devestating!
@stickemup
I’d imagine it’s easier to make a game run smoothly at 1080p when the color palette for the textures is all shades of gray.
I shouldn’t have said the PS3 was less powerful based on that. It’s really more about what the developers can do with that power, and obviously the engine Haze is running on is poorly optimized.
Right now, more than anything else, I’m looking forward to Strong Bad’s Awesome Game for Attractive People.
So Haze is effecctively Lair 2, eh?
More PS3 shovelware.
Its Krapzone Poo, by the way
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/875/875229p1.html
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Another POS3 exclusive that sucks donkey dong!!!! Another epic FAIL for $ony.
Oh, in case Raul, Phans and nextgenloser read this, the Good Samaritan Hotline is 1-800-POS3-SUCKS!!!
You ALL FAIL!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
PS3: Hey 360! Hey 360!
PS3: Hey 360! Haze is going to be better then every 360 fps ever made!
360: Haze got a 4.5
Ps3: Nyoro~n…
@Iwiipforsony
I fail to see how reviews for Haze directly affects into how Killzone 2 reviews will be.
So what your saying is this, “since Haze sucks, killzone 2 will suck since Haze is getting pretty poor reviews.”
That doesn’t make sense and neither do you.
@ColdYellow
I think he means that since KZ2 is all just graphics and boring, non-innovative FPS gameplay he predicts it will be like Haze…..Which was kind of the same thing. All flash and no substance.
@ROFLCOPTER
http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/reviews/1781/Haze.html
your right about haze heres a link to a review hahahaha and i wanted to play this 2 but o well another ps3 game with all the hype and little that delivers
@WAFFLECOPTER
I predict all future 360 titles being lousy also. This is loads easier being able to predict the future.
@Random frog
The over-hyped under-achieving crown will always remain atop the Master Chef’s head. These predictions are coming at you free of charge (unlike the halo 3 scores).
Haze gets a 6.25/10 from GameInformer. In the meantime, MGS4 got a 10/10.
“…One man knows the answer to that. His name is Paul Fitzpatrick and he’s written the world’s first review of the game for the UK’s Official PlayStation Magazine. And he very happily gave it a none-better 10/10 score.”
Killzone 2 has previewed well. The shooting mechanics are solid, the graphics are amazing. The game doesn’t need to revolutionize the FPS world in order to be great. So far from what I’ve seen, it’s definitely great. Multiplayer will determine just how good it actually can be though…multiplayer is a bit more important in a FPS these days.
I take it that Paul and Hans can’t accept that it didn’t live up to the hype.
And it’s not just IGN saying that Haze is crap.
@Hans
ALOT of games preview well because thats what they are: previews. Turning Point previewed well and it turned out like shit and so did the first Killzone as well. Remember a preview is optimistic but not a final build of the game so the best thing to do is take it with a grain of salt.
@Hans
No shit multiplayer is an important part of a fps nowadays and the first killzone did look better than halo 2 it wasn’t as fun.
@paul
yes i am somewhat dissapointed wit halo 3 but lets c your killzone do the file share and not have crappy online
Arcade game limit on XBL was up to 350MB. Just news in light of the Street Fighter problem.
I’m still waiting for Haze 11/10 review from .
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/933103.asp
*snicker*
Better than Halo 2.5 you say ?
I’m not gonna lie, Halo 2&3 isn’t that too great. The ending sucks but the gaming experience is fun, sadly it’s too short.
Where is your “Halo killer” now SDF!?
*insert evil sinister laugh here*
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/875/875229p1.html
lair was innovative, but no one noticed that reviewing the game.
i don t understand why ppl still trust reviewers, you didn t even try the game yet.
@Sixaxis
Did anyone even mention haze in the last couple of weeks? If it turns out to be a disappointment then so be it, another 100 or so and we’ll be catching the 360′s number.
@Random frog
I’ve owned both consoles and tried most of the exclusive FPS games, RFOM is better than any 360 effort (in single player and definitely in multi) and that was a launch title!
@Nark
When a game’s as bad as halo 3, is it’s shortness not a blessing?
Another game hyped by Sonyboys to be the next coming, falls short! And they can’t STAND it.
Which one of the “2008 is gonna be the year of the PS3 because of the games like *title*!” is next to fail? Place your bets people?
So Haze is a flop. You didn’t have to be Nostradamus to predict that. Ah well, the system still plays movies well.
http://i30.tinypic.com/2r6fjw8.gif
I admit, I loled six1s.
Its Interesting to see comments in responce to my post. Comments like
Stickemup “It’s so unfair to compare the Wii to any current, or past videogame systems.”
and
Duck “You can’t just project the 8 year sales like that.”
Well here we all are logged into SDF reading “reviews”and “articles” that do exactly that with the PS3 day in and day out. Nuf Said.
Stickemup “… one more thing BLACKY, the PS2 wasn’t being used by middle aged women doing Yoga.”
Just close your eyes and convince yourself that possibly half the of PS3 sales aren’t being used just as a cheaper Blu-Ray player.
After a borderline failure, SDF goes: Hey, wait! The PS2 destroys the Gamecube and Xbox!
Everyone knows, and nobody cares about last-gen consoles. There should be nothing wrong with the PS3, right? So couldn’t you never take your focus off of it?
and when this gen is over the ps3 will take the place of the ps2 as best console of all time and best selling console of all time