Breaking Embargoes: First US Metal Gear Solid 4 Review to Hit the Net
A few weeks ago, Sony Defense Force had the pleasure to entertain an opportunity of a lifetime. We were personally invited to Kojima’s luxurious resort in the mountain village of Nasu, Japan in order to play through the entire final version of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. Sound incredible enough? Wait until you actually play through the game for yourself when it releases on store shelves on June 12, 2008.
Before we embarked on our adventure, we were a bit skeptical of how Metal Gear Solid 4 would turn out; after all, Sony Defense Force is world-renowned for its critical eye regarding the gaming industry – Sony included. MGS4 is a title that has received numerous delays and is releasing after Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 failed to live up to our high expectations. Would MGS4 live up to the hype and deliver a ground breaking title we’ve been waiting years for?…
With this in mind, we kept an unbiased and critical perspective when we checked into the main Konami offices that boasted a beautiful Zen garden for our introductory get-together. The check in process was fairly awkward – we had been informed that we needed to change our clothes to something more comfortable. Konami provided us with silk pyjamas which would be our attire for the entire duration of our three day excursion. After being fitted for our proper playthrough garbs, we now had the chance to meet the famous Hideo Kojima. When we walked into his office, he sat atop a throne of gold and was currently in the process of deep meditation as the Metal Gear Solid 4 Soundtrack played in the background. Never wanting to disrespect a master at work, we quietly made our way out of his office when Kojima abruptly eased our fears and told us to stay. Four personal female assistants then carried Kojima off of his throne and placed him on a couch clothed in leopard skin. We had never been so amazed in our lives. Kojima resembled a deity.
After Sony Defense Force exchanged a few comments with Kojima, we were then whisked away to our resort hotels which overlooked a relaxing volcanic hot springs. However, very little time was actually spent in our hotel room as we spent our entire allotted time to devote strictly to MGS4, which we played on a huge movie theater sized projection screen accompanied by full 7.1 surround sound speakers that provided the amazing sounds and score in uncompressed lossless audio while one of Kojima’s beautiful female assistants fellated us during our playthrough (we never realized just how friendly Japanese culture truly was).
But enough of the discussion about our trip (I’m sure you’re jealous enough as is), let’s discuss the actual game of Metal Gear Solid 4. Here at Sony Defense Force, we’re not prone to projecting exaggerated comments about videogames. However, there are times when blanket praise is simply unavoidable. The greatness of Kojima’s latest installment in the Metal Gear Solid franchise cannot be faithfully represented without hyperbole: Simply put, MGS4 represents the greatest leap in gaming the industry will ever see. It’s a title that represents such a tectonic shift in the way gamers and critics will look at games that they will no longer be perceived as titles that only children play casually; rather, they will be looked at in the same respect as some of the greatest movies, novels, and artistic compositions. Unlike lesser titles such as Halo 2.5 and Gears of War that look and play as though they were catered towards children with attention deficit disorder, currently on rehab, and huge fans of the “Insane Clown Posse”, Metal Gear Solid 4 represents true cinematic quality that can be appreciated by the sophisticated gamer. Halo 2.5 and Gears of War could only wish to be likened to B action movies, while MGS4 is an oscar worthy performance that stands up against among the best that Hollywood can produce. At times it’s action packed, and at others it’s incredibly touching. You will most certainly cry a few times throughout your playthrough.
Graphically, it goes without saying that this game is only possible on the vastly superior Playstation 3 hardware. The game is packed with so much content that a 50 GB Blu-Ray disc was barely able to contain its greatness. When playing through the game, I was repeatedly reminded that Next-Gen not only starts with the Playstation 3, but it also only truly starts with Metal Gear Solid 4. The Xbox 360, in comparison, seems so outdated that it almost reminds me of the Nintendo Wii. What Metal Gear Solid 4 excels at is conveying an emotional experience through the high quality character models and animation. No other game features such stunningly high polygon representations of its cast and Kojima has certainly pushed boundaries in terms of animation both in-game and during cutscenes. One fear of many fans is that the game would not feature diverse locations and settings. This is definitely not the case, as you will travel from the Middle East to Eastern Europe, South America, and yes, Shadow Moses with each location remaining fresh and unique.
Similarly, the soundtrack also breaks new ground with compositions written by Harry Gregson-Williams and Nobuko Toda that rival any of the greatest Hollywood productions. Luckily you will also get to enjoy these tracks in uncompressed, lossless format which is afforded by the superior Blu-Ray technology that is standard with the vastly superior Playstation 3 hardware. The only way to experience MGS4 is with a proper surround sound setup.
In terms of gameplay, Metal Gear Solid 4 sets a new standard for action games. The game is brilliantly paced, and every scenario the title throws at you seems distinct and refreshing. Long moments of intimate, more stealth based scenarios conclude with incredibly large battles. The game also offers substantial variability in terms of individual play style. Fans of stealth can predominantly play the game in that fashion, while run and gun fans can play this title as a pure action extravaganza. The addition of Drebin points (which you gather and collect from weapons you locate on the battlefield) allows gamers to customize their weapons and is incredibly deep and rewarding. Further additions to the series includes stress meters which will impact the player’s ability depending on the situation on the battlefield. Controls have been greatly refined in the series, which is a gigantic leap over its predecessors. One of the many complaints regarding MGS2/3 was the camera system which was normally always at an over the top perspective. MGS4 has replaced this camera system with a much better perspective that is similar to what you’ve played with Resident Evil 4. The truly amazing aspect of Metal Gear Solid 4, outside of the solid and refreshing pacing, is the set pieces. They’re simply unmatched in any game. You will encounter some of the best boss battles and epic war scenes that intertwine perfectly with cut scenes that allow you to catch your breath. Fortunately, we will not go into detail regarding these scenes in order to not spoil anyone in this review.
Ultimately, Metal Gear Solid 4 offers an amazing experience regardless of your disposition; new fans to the series will easily be able to follow the game, while long time fans will be able to appreciate all of special nuances that make the Metal Gear franchise so special. Metal Gear Solid 4 will take skilled players between 25-30 hours to beat and you simply will not find a better game to utilize that time towards. The combination of engaging and continually refreshing gameplay along with superlative pacing and cinematics represents a quality package that has never before been seen in gaming. Everything Metal Gear Solid 4 tries to accomplish is significantly better than any other game before it. It is quite simply the greatest game ever made. Yes. Better than Mario. Better than Zelda. Way better than Halo (I’m only listing this game to appease Xbox fans, because anyone with decent taste would realize Halo does not deserve to be ranked amongst the best games ever). Better than Gears of Bore. Better than everything. So given how much we love Metal Gear Solid 4, what do we score it? Behold…
So this presents the question: Does Solid Snake finish his mission to destroy the Xbox 360? Without question, yes. If I were Microsoft’s Aaron Greenberg, I wouldn’t be looking so green these days. The Playstation 3 has outsold the Xbox 360 for 2008 in North America, Microsoft’s strongest market, despite cosing significantly more than its competitor. The Playstation 3 is already killing the Xbox 360 in Europe and Japan. What’s worse is that it continues to sell at round parity with the Xbox 360 in North America despite massive shortages of the 80 GB PS3. With the incredible hype and pent up demand for the 80 GB SKU, you will see June sales of the Playstation 3 skyrocket and the Xbox 360 simply will not be able to recover. Combine that with firmware update 2.4 which will give Playstation games everything (and more) that Xbox Live provides but at no additional cost, and Microsoft must be sweating bullets right now (hopefully doing so on top of their overheating Xbox 360s). The release of the most groundbreaking title in the history of gaming as a Playstation 3 exclusive will push the PS3 to record heights and leave the Xbox 360 red ringing in its dust. Thank you Solid Snake. The battle was fierce for a year or so, but luckily you have killed the Xbox 360. On June 12, 2008 it truly begins.
Only scientific notation can accurately express the brilliance of Metal Gear Solid 4 — Final Score: 10x1010
June 1st, 2008 at 4:07 pm
I think any game will get a 10 x 10 to the tenth power if you’re getting a blowjob while playing it.
Lol, still, I cant wait for this game.
June 1st, 2008 at 4:09 pm
So Haze is the better game since that got a 10/10.
June 1st, 2008 at 4:20 pm
You know I preferred it when SDF’s lies were at least somewhat believable.
SDF would not even receive a disc to preview, let alone be invited to Kojima’s place. Nice try losers. The only fellatio I’m sure is going on is between Hans and Paul.
June 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Also if you where under embargo you could face serious legal problems since you did either sign or agree NOT to talk about the game or put up a review untill a certain date. Since you claim to have signed a Nondisclousure Agreement you could face a fine for breach of contract or jail time.
June 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Since you claim to have signed a Nondisclousure Agreement you could face a fine for breach of contract or jail time.
June 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
and hopefully they will so i wont have to deal with this crappy sony fanboyism
June 1st, 2008 at 5:54 pm
the middle part is actually quite well written, I’m dead serious. What a waste. He could do so much better than this, by simply wiring this entire article with anti 360 stuff it really brings it down.
June 1st, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Epic Megafail.
Sony fanboyism, they can’t even photoshop a slit wrist properly! I’ll gladly show the retard who wrote this review, how to slit windpipes, by doing it to him.
June 1st, 2008 at 6:02 pm
I also call bullshit on any review that posts no screenshots. Most of those pics had nothing to do with the game. And no, Snake didn’t complete his mission to destroy the 360, it’s still there. Pretty sure spoilers point to him dying as well.
June 1st, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Isn’t this like, the fourth review, not the first?
June 1st, 2008 at 6:18 pm
This is the most awesomest thing I’ve read in all my 5 months of internetting. Gotta love the casual references to halo 2.5 and gears of bore.
And the score! 10×10 to the power of 10…that’s gotta be at least 60! I’m so buying this!
June 1st, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Hey Paul, you and your lover Hans keep mentioning Halo 2.5. I’m interested in playing it. But I’ve been unable to find a copy of it.
http://www.gamestop.com/browse/search.aspx?N=0&Ntk=TitleKeyword&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntt=halo%202.5
Can you help?
June 1st, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Also: What was the other number? 10*10 to the tenth what? What if it was 10*10 to the tenth out of.. Like:
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000?
Seems like a pretty bad game then.
June 1st, 2008 at 6:31 pm
I only have eyes for you Keri, your jealousy is quite unnecessary.
June 1st, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Paul, quite eying up my package and tell me where I can find a copy of Halo 2.5 damnit.
June 1st, 2008 at 8:24 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
SNAKE’S GUN GOT THE RROD.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
EPIC PHAIL.
June 1st, 2008 at 8:30 pm
And you say MGS4 has 30+ hours of gameplay?
Mass Effect > MGS4
Enjoy your exclusive MGS4 title.
It’ll only be ported to the superior 360.
June 1st, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Mass Effect took me 16 hours to beat.
MGS4 took me 29.
June 1st, 2008 at 8:47 pm
hahahhahaha gotta love bullshit xbox 360 tears! yall hate this site, constantly critize it, hate the games, wish games like haze didnt go to your console, claim not to care about mgs 4, run your mouth as always but yet you create an account here and always come here saying the same bullshit things like sdf sucks and what not… why dont yall go get that xbox from the repair shop and get out of here, because in case you dont know how to read… the name of this website is SONY DEFENSE FORCE… dumbasses
June 1st, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Bullshit Hans. You don’t know how long MGS4 takes to beat because you have not played it. You know with it not being out and all.
June 1st, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Um, you guys DO know it’s just a game, right, not the Holy Grail?
June 1st, 2008 at 9:07 pm
I call bulshit Hans, the game isn’t out yet.
You don’t have a review copy, because SDF isn’t a real review site. Konami would probably throw acid in your face if you even asked for a copy…on second thought, GO FOR IT!
June 1st, 2008 at 9:08 pm
April 1st was a couple of months ago fellas!
June 1st, 2008 at 9:17 pm
“Konami provided us with silk pyjamas which would be our attire for the entire duration of our three day excursion.”
Awwwww… how cute. Sounds like scene out of a chick flick if you ask me. Did you take your Chihuahua as well?
June 1st, 2008 at 9:17 pm
I’m expecting an announcement of the SDF joke on here a while later from now. C’mon guys, you do realize this was the most blatant article on this site ever? How are any of you offering any serious critisism? The score alone show tell you that this is the declaration of the joke that is SDF, which we’ve all been waiting for. I mean, they gave 100 billion out of 10.
June 1st, 2008 at 9:28 pm
I’m expecting an announcement of the S*D-F joke on here a while later from now. C’mon guys, you do realize this was the most blatant article on this s-i-te ever? How are any of you offering any serious critisism? The score alone show tell you that this is the declaration of the joke that is S-D*F, which we’ve all been waiting for. I mean, they gave 100 billion out of 10.
June 1st, 2008 at 9:45 pm
@Paul – Man I’m with you on that one!!! I don’t think I have ever laughed this hard online. When I saw the 8 I was like, “what the….” then BAM! Haha…
Kaz always looks hilarious in those pics! Like if he was in the joke.
You guys really did it with this review. Awesome.
@I Wiip for Sony – Are you kidding me? You don’t think everyone already gets it?
If this was a review for Gears or something, I would be laughing my ass off too. Stop being such rabid fanboys.
June 1st, 2008 at 9:47 pm
It must suck not being able to afford more than one console. This game is going to be great!
June 1st, 2008 at 9:49 pm
They got one thing right in this article, though.
Kojima is a diety.
June 1st, 2008 at 9:57 pm
@Agnostic
“It must suck not being able to afford more than one console. This game is going to be great!”
Actually many people like myself can afford and do own more than one console and still will (thankfully) be unable to play this game. As I own a 360/Wii/PS2 afterall.
Had I the money, and I do, I still wouldn’t buy a PS3.
June 1st, 2008 at 10:00 pm
It’s a really great game, erik.
I’m sorry you can’t afford a PS3 in order to play the greatness that is Metal Gear Solid 4.
June 1st, 2008 at 10:02 pm
@Hans
As I just stated: Though I CAN afford a PS3 I don’t want a PS3.
June 1st, 2008 at 10:04 pm
@Stickemup
Of course some don’t get it; they’re treating like the other SDF posts.
June 1st, 2008 at 10:22 pm
And if you don’t believe that,
http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=28318
Just read down to the 10 or 12th post, even they agree with me.
June 1st, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Ok, I saw this with Haze and see it here too: For a review, there is very little actual game details. Everyone does know this site is a joke in Sony Fanboyism, but at least make it somewhat plausable that you have played it. Cite minor examples or what not. I mean there are mentions of the preasure meters, but not what they’re even for. And over half this review, has nothing to do with the game.
In closing, c’mon, be a bit real. This site’s stopped being funny ages ago, and borders on scary now.
June 1st, 2008 at 11:03 pm
GamePro seems to agree with SDF.
Like POM UK, GamePro isn’t being stingy with the praise, pinning a glowing 5/5 review on MGS4’s lapel, while calling it “one of the greatest games of all time.” Oh, but it doesn’t stop there. Here’s just a handful of our favorite bits:
“This is videogame storytelling at its absolute best, and represents a new high watermark for the craft, easily surpassing the superb BioShock and the subversive Grand Theft Auto IV.”
“MGS4 has that effect on players, effectively blurring, if not erasing, the line that divides games and cinema. It’s an absolutely remarkable achievement.”
“But if you have access to an HDTV, MGS4 will show you the bleeding edge of video game graphics.”
“It sets new standards for graphics, sound, gameplay, and storytelling, and it may be years before it is equalled, let alone surpassed.”
“You will not play a better game this year – maybe even this decade.”
Check out the entire review in this month’s GamePro which, we presume, should be on store shelves or in your mailbox any day now.
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:02 am
Unfortunately this is a title not too many people care about, and it’s certainly not a system mover except for a handful of longtime fans and fanboys who are currently hyping themselves for a game they don’t even know the backstory of.
Speaking of backstory, they can’t even catch up on the story anymore because their 40gb ps2.5 fails to play ps2 games.
And somehow, after all the fail this title will see on the ps2.5 I strongly believe that one day it will show up on the xbox360. Even then I won’t buy it, because frankly, I don’t care about stealth games, and I have never played a mgs game before.
Last but not least, as for all ps2.5 blockbusters, mgs started out on the nintendo consoles. Same for FF, same for a handful of others. GTA started out on the pc but only got ported as a leftover which somehow took off.
June 2nd, 2008 at 4:40 am
AWESOME REVIEW! Simply hilarious!
June 2nd, 2008 at 4:50 am
Hahahahahahahahaha @ Hans.
I’m surprised you touched Mass Effect ont he “vastly inferior 360 hardware”. I can tell you right now, for you to complete that in 16 hours it means you didn’t experience any of the game at all. Just the main storyline.
$20 says that Gears of War 2 will completely “pwn” MGS4 in sales.
June 2nd, 2008 at 5:59 am
oh nothing about the 90 minute cutscene…
SDF fail!
Oh and amazing graphics? Kojima has stated that it isn’t the giant leap people were expecting. The PS3 hardware is not capable of running a full game with the grahics that were seen in the original demo.
Double SDF fail!
June 2nd, 2008 at 6:06 am
I LOVE this line…
“The release of the most groundbreaking title in the history of gaming as a Playstation 3 exclusive will push the PS3 to record heights and leave the Xbox 360 red ringing in its dust.”
Really cracks me up. Apparently, one game makes a console? So what else has sony got planned after MGS4? next to nothing. At least the 360 owners have Ninja Gaiden II, Fable 2, Gears Of War 2, Too Human, Halo Wars Banjo 3, Viva Pinata 2, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell: Conviction and the, as of yet untitled, Star Wars FPS MMO (which rumour has it is only for 360)
What has sony got to offer? LBP and… erm… erm… pass
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:02 am
The angry hex-boxer’s comments only serve to make this awesome review even better. Happy days…
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:02 am
http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-152157.aspx
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:08 am
I must say that I respect EGM a little more now.
“You want us to sugar coat our review, and not mention certain negatives? FUCK YOU! Go find another reviewer!”
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:09 am
“The angry hex-boxer’s comments only serve to make this awesome review even better.”
How? Explain this to me. That’s like saying the audience at a terrible movie going, “BOO!” makes the movie better. Stop breathing my oxygen!
June 2nd, 2008 at 8:20 am
The angry PS3rs comments about the Eurogamer and Edge review of MGS4 make the reviews even better.
See? Two can play that little game Denial Boy Paul.
June 2nd, 2008 at 9:54 am
And for all the PS3 fanboys who say that MGS4 would be impossible on the supposedly inferior 360 hardware, your god Kojima disagrees:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=62199
Must be a real bitch eh? On one hand your fanboyism won’t let you admit that the PS3 isn’t vastly superior. On the other hand your fanboyism won’t let you question your god Kojima. What is a fanboy to do?
June 2nd, 2008 at 10:12 am
Could we have a whip round to help raise Keri’s funds? Some quality Ps3 time would help to ease her suffering through this, the most troublesome time of the month.
June 2nd, 2008 at 10:24 am
@Paul – Yup, hehe. You know when this site suceeds the most? When the X-Box fans start getting real aggressive, and start putting up links, and giving all these really hateful arguments.
It’s like when you’re crackin’ jokes with your buddies, and you say something real good, and all of a sudden someone gets real serious and starts bringing up shit like, “well at least my f*ckin’ dad didn’t leave my mom like yours”
Hilarious
Good God! Why do you guys care about MGS4 reviews? Who cares! If you aren’t going to play the game, and don’t plan to, then really…how do your opinions matter at all???
You wont hear me bashing Sex In the City. Why? Because I will never see it, and don’t plan on seeing it. So I wont waste my time flaming it.
June 2nd, 2008 at 11:54 am
God if a game like DMC 4 had a 23 minute install time,
whats the install time on MGS4 going to be?
3 days?
Looks like you wont be able to play it on launch day then. as you’ll be waiting to play it for 3 days
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Only 10×10?
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:58 pm
“When we walked into his office, he sat atop a throne of gold and was currently in the process of deep meditation as the Metal Gear Solid 4 Soundtrack played in the background. Never wanting to disrespect a master at work, we quietly made our way out of his office when Kojima abruptly eased our fears and told us to stay. Four personal female assistants then carried Kojima off of his throne and placed him on a couch clothed in leopard skin. We had never been so amazed in our lives. Kojima resembled a deity.”
HOW RETARDED DO YOU THINK WE ARE?
I have a PS3 and even i think this site is full of so much shit its unbelievable.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Another great review. I understand, that you had to get a little crazy, because this game ist just perfect. But since you have provided totally unbiased information for years, its ok.
Shame on you XBOX Fanboys especially ProperBritish how claims to own a ps3. SDF isnt a joke. go play halo 2.5 and continue thinking that you are happy with your console. Perhaps some time you will realize that you whole life has been a joke and that you were wrong. Better wake up now and buy a ps3 (instead of claiming you have one).
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:06 pm
SDF STRIKES AGAIN!
Well, this is definitely not as good as the Haze review. Hans, you are making the troll WAY too obvious. But you get results, so I guess I can’t criticize you too much. Still, people are waking up that this troll site mocks PS3 fanboys, and soon you will start to lose regulars. But I guess you can go out with a bang, and this does qualify as a damn huge “bang.” Good job, guys. You are some of the finest trolls I have ever seen. Keep it up.
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:31 pm
@xboxisforkids
I own all three consoles and I’ve only ever thought the PS3 was a waste of money. Although I suppose it is fun to be in on the joke, and what a joke this site is
btw, if Kojima really did live in a place like that, why would he even dream of letting in someone from this site? It’s make him look seriously bad.
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:34 pm
@xboxisforkids
After reading that post, I have learned the extent of SDF’s success. These guys can get inside your minds and brainwash you. SDF editors are my heroes.
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I haven’t seen any other reviews that were allowed to give a game a score above 10. Not that I am complaining. You damn xbots!
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Oh no! Snakes gun has the RROD! How will he be able to use it? Srsly, how?
And why is MS making guns? (assuming that they keep the RROD)
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 pm
“Must be a real bitch eh? On one hand your fanboyism won’t let you admit that the PS3 isn’t vastly superior. On the other hand your fanboyism won’t let you question your god Kojima. What is a fanboy to do?”
Simple. They explode.
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:44 pm
This is a very useful review, I now know that I need to buy a copy of MGS4. Thank you SDF.
June 2nd, 2008 at 4:32 pm
The 12th is almost here
, now all i have to do is dust off my PS3 and ill be all set!
June 2nd, 2008 at 4:36 pm
And as a side note, does anybody but fanboys of PS3 actualy come to this site to read the “reviews”?
June 2nd, 2008 at 4:49 pm
@fiffer86
You would have to anyways. The PS3’s shiny surface always gets dust on it even overnight. At least mine does.
June 2nd, 2008 at 5:23 pm
@WiiS360
Yea, lol. Im just glad that the game that I bought my PS3 for, is about to launch. I just wish the PS3 had more good games out right now :S, thats all (that are not on the 360 or computer). My 360 and computer have been getting alot more lovin.
June 2nd, 2008 at 5:52 pm
OMG Snake is a Xbox fanboy! His pistol is made by Microsoft!
June 2nd, 2008 at 5:52 pm
And I’m not sure why I don’t envision your review making it to GameRankings or MetaCritic.
June 2nd, 2008 at 6:38 pm
@WiiS360 & fiffer86
I don’t own a PS3 (plan on getting one though) but my friend has one and its dusty has all hell. I almost want to take his, clean it out, and charge him for a new one since he’s basically neglecting it. Sure he plays it but doesn’t take care of it (even though he got it for free).
June 2nd, 2008 at 6:44 pm
@ColdYellow
I’ll take that PS3. How’d he get it for free? I just learned that now at the rate I’m earning money (and with a birthday coming up), I’ll probably get a PS3 by April 2009. Go go cheap parents!
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:03 pm
@ColdYellow
Oh, the PS3 gets surprisingly dusty overnight. I think it might have some kind of static that accumulates over time.
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Worth throwing out there.
IGN UK gave this game a 9.9.
This makes MGS4 the second highest rated console game of this generation, only beaten by GTAIV, which got a 10. So yes, it means that this game is, in the eyes of IGN UK, better than SSBB, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime, Zelda, Halo 3, Gears of War, and everything else that has been released thus far for wii/360/ps3.
June 2nd, 2008 at 8:18 pm
One thing you can say for these guys, besides their godly trolling prowess, is their creativity with photoshop. Not necessarily their SKILL, per se, but they do have some damn good ideas.
June 2nd, 2008 at 8:41 pm
ok the game is good personally i dont really care for it because it is not my type of game but hey at least i can get ninja gaiden 2 even though they only gave it 8’s because it was to hard o pual u make me laugh so much
June 2nd, 2008 at 8:42 pm
@Paul
I see you still don’t understand. I’m sorry, I know I should use smaller words with you.
Tell me which part in this phrase you don’t understand:
I can afford a PS3. But I do not want a PS3. I would not accept a PS3 were it given to me for free.
June 2nd, 2008 at 8:51 pm
It is a great gaming console. what is there not to love of getting one for FREE.
June 2nd, 2008 at 9:02 pm
@WiiS360
The part where you have to lug the damn thing down to the pawn shop to get rid of it.
June 2nd, 2008 at 9:24 pm
tell someone to help you carry it for you and give them 30% of the $6,000,000 dollars you might get from the pawn shop once you watch all of the blu-ray movies and play its 2 game selection.
June 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 pm
This is the first SDF post to make me laugh in a while. Only because of the score gif.
June 2nd, 2008 at 11:08 pm
I’m impressed. You managed to keep it from looking like a serious review with a genuinely good game, without bashing it (of course that’s because it’s on the PS3, which would ruin your assumed persona if at all insulted)- in fact, I would say the PS3’s first great exclusive. This is actually quite funny.
June 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Also, has anyone else noticed that the “ad free” SDF has a Halo Wars ad between two of the front page stories? That really could damage the facade- I would advise relying on donations from the few who take this site seriously.
June 3rd, 2008 at 8:50 am
Look SDF! It begins! (the process of Sony slowly getting around to charging PSN users to use the service that is…)
PSN Gold?
http://kotaku.com/5012570/sony-introducing-pay-for-demo-exclusive-content-gaming-program
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:04 am
@Keri
You ain’t never getting a PSFree! I’m afraid you’re gonna have to work hard for it, just like the rest of us. So stop looking for freebies, when you can finally afford one you’ll appreciate it that much more.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:04 am
@erik – Once again, you’re full of sh*t.
I personally wouldn’t go out and purhcase a Wii, but if one was given to me, I would accept it, and play some of it’s games. Same goes for the 360.
You’re so full of it, really. At the end of the day I don’t care what I’m playing, as long as it’s good.
Your “the PS3 doesn’t have any games” line is played out. You can’t have an opinion on something you haven’t played. I can’t count on my fingers the amount of times I tried a game, that I thought I wouldn’t like, and ended up loving.
Stop trying to act like an elitest f*g, with your “all I care about is gameplay” attitude. Like if the PS3 needs to apologize to you for having great looking “pixar” – like you call it – games. You’re as full of s*it as anyone on this site.
Once again, this is the greatest review I have seen on the site yet.
Where Cold and Escape at? They make this site fun.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:41 am
@Keri
And spend the next 12 years of your life paying for it
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:44 am
If I got a PSfree, I’d sell it.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 am
If I got a PSfree, I’d smack it with a sledgehammer, record it, and put it up here to see the reactions of people like Paul.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 am
@Pig Face
If you got a PSFree, you’d be smashing your 360, and you wouldn’t be the first.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:55 am
“#
Random frag Says:
June 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
and hopefully they will so i wont have to deal with this crappy sony fanboyism”
there’s an alternative deluded Xbot- DONT visit the site
or does that thought frighten you because you love this site so much that you have to spend hours on it?
too funny
MGS4 > every 360 “exclusive”
there’s no way around it
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Scientific Notation only includes the numbers 1 through 9.9 repeating.
Great troll though
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:10 pm
your right i do love this site cause its funny as hell and no msg4 is not better than every 360 exclusive but it is a good game and will sell alot of copies
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Finally, the God King of All Videogames is come! All hail MGS4!
June 3rd, 2008 at 2:13 pm
@Neo
That link is about extra stuff aside from the normal PSN, which I’m not interested in. The comments seem to suggest it’s a replacement for PS magazine or something, which I’m not interested in either. All I want is to play against real people instead of AI, which is free. To charge for that you really need to have $haft incorporated into your name.
June 3rd, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Can I just say this… The people who were going to buy a PS3 would have done by now. MGS4 will not mean more consoles. I would even go as far as to say it WONT sell 1 million in the first week. Especially seeing as though MGS3 only sold 3.6 million copies worldwide.
Even if it does sell consoles, it would have to sell just under 5 million extra which I can assure you isn’t going to happen due to the time of the year.
MGS4 will flop due to this. How can it expect to sell to a minimal user base AND add to the user base in the time of the year when money is scarce? If Konami were expecting it to sell, the release date would have been later in the year during the Christmas run-up.
Come on, even the ball licker at SDF can see this!
Oh yeah, and a very good source has told me that it IS being ported to 360. But it will be without MGS online. 1 disc as well! Kojima isn’t porting it… A company inside Konami is…
June 3rd, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Well Kojima himself said a 360 port “is technically possible”
June 3rd, 2008 at 2:30 pm
http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots/review/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots/a-20080602125952203027/g-20051216153655522074/p-3
HOO FUCKING RAH! AN HONEST REVIEW NOT THROUGH TINTED GLASSES!
June 3rd, 2008 at 2:44 pm
@the_delusional_one
Unless the 9 in that link is actually 9% I don’t see why you’re so happy.
June 3rd, 2008 at 3:03 pm
@keri
in all honesty if someone said, “here’s a PS3 and the 5 best games for it, free and clear” you still wouldn’t take it?
Hell I would in a heartbeat so I can have even more games to play as well. Theres no point in being a console elitest since there is no really fucking point to it at all. Even if you don’t want a Ps3 there is no reason to bash it if you don’t own it and thats for everyone as well.
June 3rd, 2008 at 3:23 pm
@Paul
I see the words were still too big for you. Lets see if I can break it down for you more.
Me am $ = PS3. Me am want PS3 = No.
@Stickemup
“I personally wouldn’t go out and purhcase a Wii, but if one was given to me, I would accept it, and play some of it’s games. Same goes for the 360.”
If I was given a PS3 I would pawn it or sell it on Ebay as soon as possible. That would be if telling the giver “No thank you” didn’t work.
“Your “the PS3 doesn’t have any games†line is played out. You can’t have an opinion on something you haven’t played. I can’t count on my fingers the amount of times I tried a game, that I thought I wouldn’t like, and ended up loving.”
Actually I can have an opinion on something I haven’t played. I can have an opinion on anything I damn well please. But just so it can be said I give you the big list of games I would buy for the PS3 were I forced to accept one at gun point:
Okay. So I did actually mean to try and list some games in all honesty. But after looking through the entire PS3 library on gamestop I can’t find a single damn one. The PS3 has what games again?
“Stop trying to act like an elitest f*g, with your “all I care about is gameplay†attitude. Like if the PS3 needs to apologize to you for having great looking “pixar†– like you call it – games. You’re as full of s*it as anyone on this site.”
So what you are saying is I should go out and purchase all style and no substance games like you and your cronies? Crysis here I come!
Yeah, not going to happen.
@Coldyellow
“in all honesty if someone said, “here’s a PS3 and the 5 best games for it, free and clear†you still wouldn’t take it?”
Yes, in all honesty that is exactly what I’m saying.
And how exactly can I be an elitist? In the past year I have purchased games for the Wii, 360, PS2 and PC. I’m fairly certain that an elitist would have a much smaller margin than that. I am far from being an elitist.
Now lets summarize class:
I have the funds to buy a PS3
I don’t want a PS3
I wouldn’t accept a free PS3
Any questions?
June 3rd, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Okay filter ate my post before this one. So until that clears perhaps a more terse one.
To ColdYellow and Stickemup
If you didn’t understand the first time around: Yes, what I’m saying is that I wouldn’t accept a PS3 even if given freely. I would pawn it, sell it on Ebay or in a last ditch effort throw it in the dumpster.
June 3rd, 2008 at 3:32 pm
That would be the dumbest thing that you could ever do. If you were to, would you put a video of it on youtube?
June 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Nice one ColdYellow…that’s right I said it! I call you that out of respect, don’t expect it to last though.
I feel I’ve earned the right to bash the 360 though cuz mine was such a repair centre-seeking POS.
ps. Keri’s gonna be pissed at you for calling her Keri.
June 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 pm
I would accept a free PS3, i would play the games to death, play the Exclusive games for it I like. I’m sure it would get along with my 360,
And at night they might mate together and produce an offspring console that has the pro’s of both consoles.
and the evil twin that has the con’s of both would be quitelly killed.
when this happens, I’ll install a live feed with a night vision cam so you guys can watch the moment when it all happens, the hot black on white console sex. then the magic birth of the Xplay360station.
Peace
June 3rd, 2008 at 3:37 pm
@WiiS360
“If you were to, would you put a video of it on youtube?”
Sure
As far as it being the dumbest thing I could ever do I disagree. I think the dumbest thing I could do would be after getting said free PS3 to go out and purchase a game for it then commence playing it.
June 3rd, 2008 at 3:46 pm
That’s the thing with games like this that are hyped to hell and back: no game is perfect, and the flaws, however tiny, will be amplified by the expectations of complete and utter perfection. Metal Gear Solid 4 could be an incredible game, but it won’t be perfect in every way, because it was made by humans. People are going to be disappointed by this.
If I got a PSFree, I would definitely take it. There is nothing wrong with the console besides the price, and I would never let rabid, blind fanboyism restrict me from enjoying great games.
June 3rd, 2008 at 3:49 pm
@Keri
“Me am $ = PS3. Me am want PS3 = No”
LOL I like it! why didn’t you just say that in the first place? this has been my misunderstanding and I apologise.
June 3rd, 2008 at 3:55 pm
again paul u are funny as hell and i cant belive erik would not accept a ps3 maybe its because im broke as shit and would get one if i had the funds but again if they remake ff7 i would start saving up for 1 right away
June 3rd, 2008 at 3:55 pm
how can you not like the PS3, and give me a non-kiddish straight answer, not “It doesnt have enough games, or the PS3 blows and you are all PS3 fanboys.
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Ease up fellas, I think we should give Keri an easy ride (depending on how hot she is). That “Me am $” thing was quality!
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
here is the perfet equal oppurtunity offender
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=zhWU4Asphb8&feature=related
and here
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=mLSf750fp44&feature=related
trust me they are funny as hell
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
@rider – Good to see someone with sense on here.
@Paul – Hehe…we’ll ease up on her.
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:11 pm
@WiiS360
It not having enough, or in my case any games is pretty much a large part of it.
But the thing that drove me off initially is the price at launch. That was, to put it quite bluntly, a major fucking slap in the face and fuck you from Sony.
I was really really hyped up about the PS3 when the “Big 3″ systems were still back in production with little more than rumors were available in the gaming magazines. Then when thumbing through a Gamepro that had PS3 info I saw the sticker price and was very very insulted. Called up my stepbrother who was also really hyped about the PS3 and I quote:
“What the fuck? For that price I could just put together a great PC rig. Does Sony think we are fucking stpuid or something?”
And I agree.
So I dislike the PS3 because its a big “Fuck You” from Sony to all of those who bought the PS1 and PS2.
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:14 pm
I meant a free PS3…and not the extrordinarily high pricetag.
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:15 pm
@WiiS360
Even if given away for free it doesn’t excuse Sony’s insult towards us.
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:20 pm
OK guys, we got the reason out of HIM. He finds the price of the PS3 offensive and would not buy it for that reason. Problem SOLVED!!!!1111
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Ps3 was pricey at first due to blu-ray, but it was being sold at a loss.
I’ve only had mine about 5 months, it cost £300, my 360 cost £300, and I’m pretty sure my first Ps2 cost £300. Stop complaining about the price it used to be.
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:35 pm
@Paul
No. I’m not going to stop complaining about the price it used to be. It was an insult towards all of us. It was Sony asking if we were actually dumb enough to buy a $600 system, and so many answered that in legion.
They might overlook this insult, but I will not.
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm
In America it was only $600 (£300) at launch? So cheap! you really are cheap Keri.
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:44 pm
How much is gas there?
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:49 pm
£1.20 litre…$12 gallon
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Cheap? No, I prefer to think of it as not stupid. Anyone who would spend $600 on a game console has more money than brains.
I had to really mull over it when I spent $350 for my 360.
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Your money argument is crap Keri, the other day you said you’d pay 300 for a blu-ray player but not 400 for a Ps3.
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:56 pm
@PAUL
how much do you get paid.
June 3rd, 2008 at 4:57 pm
@Paul
Close but no cigar.
I said I would (and currently plan on) pay $300 for a blu-ray player, but not the extra $100 for a PS3. As it not worth the extra $100 for me.
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:00 pm
@WiiS3…not enough
@Keri…W/E
I’m offski, it’s not just expensive in England, it’s late too.
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:03 pm
@Paul
My name is not WiiS3, it is WiiS360, but six1s does look like it would spell sixaxis. Thats what I thought it was at first.
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:04 pm
$12 a gallon? How does anyone have any money over there anymore?
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:08 pm
@WiiS3…I just missed out the worst part of your name
@Wiiping…We walk a lot.
OK this time I am going, the bottle is empty.
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Hilarious. Discussion about how much the Playstation 3 costs.
Let me compare the difference in price:
Xbox 360 – $399 at launch. No Blu-Ray. Only a 20 GB Hard Drive. No Wifi. No HDMI.
+ $100 Wifi
+ $50/yr Xbox Live, over the course of 6 years of a console’s lifespan = $300.
TOTAL COST OF THE XBOX 360 = $800. WITHOUT Blu-Ray or HDMI and ONLY a 20 GB Hard Drive.
Compare that with the Playstation 3.
$499 MGS4 80 GB Bundle. Blu-Ray included. Wifi Included. HDMI included. 80GB HD included (4x the 360).
Includes a free game.
-$100 discount at Wal-Mart
TOTAL COST OF THE PLAYSTATION 3 = $400.
This includes Blu-Ray, Wifi, 80 GB HDD, and a free game.
Xbox 360 is more than twice the cost of a Playstation 3.
Apparently Xbox fans can’t account for operating costs.
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:30 pm
@ Stickemup
Busy trying to find that last bastard goddess materia so that I can watch another pretty video in Crisis Core.
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:41 pm
rofl! this is my third copy paste! Hans must haaaate me. that or the site hates sensibility.
Ok, Hans, your view is slanted here, though we can’t say otherwise a lot of times. You compare the launch pricing of the Xbox 360 to a system bundle for the PS3 that’s out today.
Secondly, $50 a year is an annual charge, and I think that it is decent, seeing as how we probably spend that much on a single game nowadays. If you’re gonna twist the words in the favor of your favorite system, at least makes sense. $50/year over the course of 6 years (wth?) = 300 + 100 for wifi = 800 dollar system…is one of the most…figure it out.
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:42 pm
this site hates me, all 4 of the same comment are waiting moderation. I should call my amendments.
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Hans,
I may like the PS3, but that was a pretty biased opinion on the prices.
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:43 pm
and give me another comparison with the 360’s price now.
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Operating costs? Its a fucking game console not a race car.
Do you know what my cost for my 360 has been? $350, the price I bought it for.
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Cute trick though comparing the launch 360 to the MGS4 version of the PS3 which isn’t out yet.
And yes, I do have an HDMI port on my 360.
June 3rd, 2008 at 6:09 pm
@Hans
“$499 MGS4 80 GB Bundle. Blu-Ray included. Wifi Included. HDMI included. 80GB HD included (4x the 360).
Includes a free game.
-$100 discount at Wal-Mart”
Good on the price comparisons but you are missing some details
1. $100 discount card at Wal-Mart is for one week only (while supplies last)and from what a sales person told me about a hour ago that card is only good one blu-ray movies.
2. You’re still paying $500 for the MGS bundle.
3. PS3 at launch- $500 for 20gig and $600 for 60gig.
4. 20gig PS3 didn’t have
Wi-Fi capability, MemoryStick/SD/CompactFlash Slots. So missing physical components (and eventually the emotion engine chipset for bc) is a bargain?
5. While it does cost money to maintain a network (xbl is still too much imo) you do get what you pay for and thats what sony has been trying to do with PSN. You know the saying “imitation is the sincerest form of flattery”.
6. Little known nugget of info- while sony doesn’t have to “pay to play” publishers/developers can decide to charge for that preticular game and sony will allow it. So in theory IW could have charged you to play COD4 and Icognito could charge you to pay seperatly to play Warhawk.
June 3rd, 2008 at 6:12 pm
and the 360 price
June 3rd, 2008 at 6:30 pm
While I agree that Xbox Live is a bit too pricey, I believe that soon Sony will have to start charging for PSN. Yes, go ahead, flame me all you want, it’s just that, the way I see it, the Live team has a huge advantage over the PSN team in that they have a steady stream of funds from the subscription fee. Maintaining and improving an online service does cost a lot of money, and because PSN is free, they just don’t have it, and that is a loss for Sony. It would be better for Sony and for PSN if they started charging. When people criticize Xbox Live for its subscription fee, they often don’t take into account that they need the money to make it that much better.
This was not a knock on either console, free PSN does attract many buyers who just occasionally play online, and the subscription fee of Live is a big turnoff to some. But I believe that once sales start to go down, the advantage to keeping PSN free will disappear, or at least start to be outweighed by the advantages to charging for it.
That’s just the way I see it.
June 3rd, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Erik, your jesture that you’d refuse to accept a ps3 for free is pure, utter stupidity and fanboyism. Yes, the ps3 launched at $600, but it had about $1200 worth of shit in it. How is $600 an insult? Yes, it’s a lot of money, but you were getting a feature that costs at least a grand otherwise.
Sure, I wouldnt pay $2,500 for a Degtyaryova Pekhotny 28, but if someone gave me a free one holy shit would I snatch that up. Actually, I’m considering saving up for one anyways, so that wasn’t such a great example.
June 3rd, 2008 at 7:09 pm
@keri
So you have a unexplainable hatred for the PS3 even though you don’t seem to mind buying PS2 games. So you gladly fork money over to play games on a sony machine and support the company but on the other hand you fucking hate’em and the games that come out for the PS3.
I get it that you don’t like the PS3 at all but if given one for free what harm would come to you? None at all. If you happened to like it then keep it and if you didn’t then give it too someone that would or sell it or even better yet give it to charity but to trash it would be a disgrace.
June 3rd, 2008 at 8:40 pm
@keri – You are so inconsistent with your comments. Like they pointed out earlier, how are you okay with buying a Blu-Ray player for $300, but not a PS3 for $400? It doesn’t make sense.
I don’t care how much you say, those $100 don’t make much difference. If the PS3 didn’t have Blu-Ray and the 360 did, I would easily give $100 extra for a 360 if I wanted Blu-Ray. Even if the only game I would like to own is Gears. I know if I played a couple other exclusive games, I would like them. Plus it might have some future exclusives I might want to play.
You have no idea what games are like on the PS3 or PSN. You go by just what your hatred let’s you see.
@ColdYellow – Exactly what you said. If you hate Sony so much keri, sell your PS2 – better yet, destroy it, – so EVIL Sony doesn’t make another cent off of you.
@Escape – Right on man. Did you pass it yet? And moderation has been annoying me lately too.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:12 pm
@rider of the short bus
I agree with you on sony charging for psn. Eventually they will have too do something; look at what happpened with the release of GTA4 and what it did to psn. Sure they can keep adding more servers but it will start to cost way too much to maintain, power, and upgrade them.
When I see sony to start charging there customers is when they see sales go up (to where they want them to be) and it will be a “easing in” process as well so it doesn’t hit someone like a ton of bricks. Hell even Nintendo is (or will) charging customers to play and it will be a matter of time before sony will “jump in”.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:15 pm
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/03/introducing-qore-taking-you-behind-the-curtain-with-playstation/
Here it is. They are starting to charge. This will evolve into basic subscription fees.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:37 pm
That’s not charging.
That’s a different service/show. It’s like an online magazine.
Not everything on PSN is free (games DO cost money, afterall), but the core service itself INCLUDING playing games, is free.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Yes Hans, but it seems to be the prelude to subscription fees. Sony simply can’t afford to keep it free while maintaining and upgrading it. That takes money, and you get money from charging.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:46 pm
I’m afraid I actually have to take Hans’ side on this- it’s not a game’s online play, but rather an additional service. Think of it as charging for something you can do with PSN, not for part of PSN.
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Prelude? Doesn’t seem to be the prelude at all. I’m sure that’s wishful thinking on your part, especially since firmware update 2.4 will bring the Playstation 3 equal to the Xbox Live service….for free.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:02 pm
If you watch the video in the link rider of the short bus provided, Veronica mentions you get “exclusive access to demos, betas, themes, and a few other surprises”.
So in essence if you want the really good stuff it seems you’re gonna have to pay for it and if you don’t well you just get the shit noone cares about. So basically it sounds like sony is taking PSN down the XBL road; PSN silver is good and all but you going to have to get PSN gold to have the full functionality of the service and maybe pay a little extra to play as well.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:24 pm
I suspect it’ll be something along the lines of “pay to get it early”. The PS3 has already flopped badly enough; no one would do something as foolish as reducing free online to bare-bones. If they do, I predict an immediate and visible drop in PS3 sales… and with current numbers, that won’t be pretty.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Currently the PS3 is clobbering the Xbox 360 globally in sales. So, if you claim the PS3 has terrible sales, I’d be amazed at what you consider the 360 sales to be…certainly not pretty.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Yes, but 360 sales worldwide are more even, with the exception of Japan, where it makes the Virtual Boy look like a success. The PS3 could lose certain regions entirely- One must look at distribution as well as the total.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:25 pm
No, worldwide 360 sales are not even close to even.
The PS3 and 360 are selling even in the US, but in Europe the PS3 is selling much more than the 360, and in Japan the PS3 is outselling the 360 as well.
So, worldwide, the PS3 is quickly catching up. PS3 has already sold more than the 360 in Europe.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Yes, it is catching up- but paid online would essentially slow that to a crawl.
My point was that paid online would be suicidal with the current install base, not that it’s not GOING to be capable of getting ahead.
The console war has no clear winner at the moment.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:10 am
From a Nutral Standpoint on PS3 vs. 360:
GPU: Almost identical, and almost imposable to truly tell which one is better. To each their own. Purly ATI vs. Nvidia
HD Space: 120 vs. 80 =1pnt for Xbox
Internet Conection= Wi-Fi free with PS3, however for games ethernet is the way to go. So i will give PS3 1/2 a point on this one. Imo, its better to buy a longer ethernet cable, then use Wi-Fi.
Online Service: $50 vs. Free. Again i will call this one even. Because with experiance with both Live imo is much more stable, and the overall experiance was better. And $50 a year is nothing, thats $4.16 a month. Less then a gallon of Gas (at least where i live).
Format: Dvd vs. Blu-ray= easy 1pnt for PS3… however, people need to understand that Blu-ray does nothing for games other then not make them multi-disk. And in no way would i ever consider a game being on multiple disks a negative.
Controller: +1 for Xbox. Let me explain though. The xbox 360 is very solid, and has had no hitches. Where as the PS3 was alot of disapointment. Sixaxis is nice, but very few games use it “well”, and the lack of rumble at launch is nothing but a disapointment. And now that they released some that have rumble, i feal that i should be able to trade in my crappy none rumble controller, for one that does.
Reliability: +1 to PS3. Face it RROD is just sad
Warranty: +1 for 360. Not only did they extend their warenty due to the RROD, but their service is rated very highly. However the PS3 has had many counts of bad feedback, and refusal to refurbish/replace the PS3.
Games: I give them a tie. 360 has more at the moment, and also has more exculsives. However, the PS3 has many “fan favorits”.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:15 am
So all things considered, it looks like 360 wins by 1/2 a points. But that could be easily changed by someones opinion. So all in all, their both great systems. And imo, if you love games, buy them both. Your only doing yourself a favor. And the best part of it is, you get to watch the trolls catch fire and flame each other
June 4th, 2008 at 1:01 am
Im still going to get MGS4, but this review hasnt helped at all. It just makes me feel sad that I have the same console as someone so sad. Reviews aren’t supposed to say how good they are compared to something else, they’re supposed to say how good they are. Especially if its an exclusive. If MGS4 came out on the 360 (which it wont), it would be inferior or even impossible, then you could say ‘Destroys the Xbox 360′, because youd have actual proof it did. To truly claim to be unbiased, you would have to give everything 10 out of 10, not ‘Destroys the Xbox 360′. For all we know the Xbox may be able to muster enough power to make something this good. I doubt it, as it’d probably catch fire, or need about 6 DVDs, but it could happen.
What I’m trying to say is, i know MGS4 is good (really good), i was in the Metal Gear Online Beta. And I will buy it, cos its gonna kick a$$. But you could at least make this review believeable. Not even the Queen of England sits on a solid gold throne.
IMO, the best graphical showcase that out atm is Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools Of Destruction. My god that was awesome. I 100%’ed that bad boy.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:00 am
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erik Says:
June 1st, 2008 at 10:02 pm
@Hans
As I just stated: Though I CAN afford a PS3 I don’t want a PS3.
Same for me, I don’t burn 400€ on a ps2.5 when 360 and wii combined do the job just fine. Also none of the exclusives I care about, most have a clone on the 360 (the clone being mostly better)
June 4th, 2008 at 3:23 am
a 360 port is possible, you seem to think that the ps3 is a a lot more powerfull than the 360 when in reality it is only slightly more powerfull.
And yes the xbox port would be on 1 dvd, unlike the ps3 the 360’s xenos processor can quickly read and decompress information. So mgs4 could be compressed to 9gb, and the xenos could uncompress it easily.
And it wouldnt have to install after every chapter like the ps3 will.
The 360 can play mgs4, kojima himself said so.
(forgive the clumsy layout, I’m typing this on my iPhone)
June 4th, 2008 at 5:38 am
@ColdYellow
“So you have a unexplainable hatred for the PS3″
No, I do think I’ve explained it plenty.
“though you don’t seem to mind buying PS2 games. So you gladly fork money over to play games on a sony machine and support the company but on the other hand you fucking hate’em and the games that come out for the PS3.”
I don’t hate Sony. I hate the PS3. By buying PS2 games I’m reinforcing the idea that there are still some out there who support the sorts of gameplay that the PS2 was built on and not the glitz and useless shit of the PS3.
Positive reinforcement. Parents don’t hate their children when they smack their asses.
“I get it that you don’t like the PS3 at all but if given one for free what harm would come to you? None at all. If you happened to like it then keep it and if you didn’t then give it too someone that would or sell it or even better yet give it to charity but to trash it would be a disgrace.”
Again its the principle of the matter. By accepting a PS3 its like getting pimpslapped across the face by Sony and asking “Please sir may I have another!”
The PS3 is Sony’s “Fuck you” to the gaming crowd.
“You are so inconsistent with your comments. Like they pointed out earlier, how are you okay with buying a Blu-Ray player for $300, but not a PS3 for $400? It doesn’t make sense.”
Well let me break it down for you. If a Blu-Ray player costed $300 and the PS3 costed $300.01, then I still wouldn’t buy the PS3. Understand now?
“You have no idea what games are like on the PS3 or PSN. You go by just what your hatred let’s you see.”
Actually I know every game that is out for the PS3. I do look at gamestop.com afterall. And after looking at the entire library I didn’t see a damn thing I would like to play.
June 4th, 2008 at 5:59 am
Hans,
And Wii is clobbering the PS3.
June 4th, 2008 at 8:55 am
If I got a PS3 for free, I’d sell it and use the money to buy an SG bass.
June 4th, 2008 at 9:23 am
@British – I know! Ratchet & Clank is probably one of my top three experiences this generation. That bad boy is fun from beginning to end. And I hate platform games! But R&C’s 80% shooter 20% platform approach works beautifully.
@keri – You’re still full of it. You didn’t even know what Zak & Wiki was on your precious Wii, and had no clue about Folklore and some other games I mentioned on the PS3 before. So don’t even try to redeem yourself. Everyone here, including 360 fans dislike you. Just like in real life eh?
It’s not enough just reading about games.
And your argument for continued support of the PS2 is garbage as well. Sony isn’t going to drop the price of the PS3 to your poverty level anytime soon. So sell that PS2 and get yourself some more Wii games.
June 4th, 2008 at 10:49 am
If I had a PS3 I’d play LBP, MGO and MGS4, and if I got bored with it I’d sell it and buy that ESP EC or the Ibanez ART300…Once sm0ke said that thing about basses my mind started wandering…
Oh, and a digitech.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Hans,
Sure, with the firmware update, it will be imitating Live, but see how long Sony can afford to keep it free. Sony will probably be smart and make it cheaper than Live, making it attractive to those still undecided between the two, but no company will keep up with something that loses their money when they could easily just charge for it. Qore seems to be the prelude to a subscription fee similar to Live silver and gold accounts: sure, you can get it free, but all the good stuff will cost.
Again, I can only offer my opinion and such facts as I can find to support it. I could very well be long, this is just how I see it.
Hans, please go back to writing quality satire. You are amazing, man.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Oh also, I was thinking about picking up the MGS Essentials collection thing for my PS2, which has not been getting a lot of loving lately. I have not previously played any MGS games, and I thought this would be a good deal. Is it worth it to buy them all, or should I just get the third one, which I heard was the best, and save my money? Are the first two worth it?
June 4th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Amazing how a 100-billion-point-review-score forum turned into another PS3 VS. Xbox 360 discussion (360 wins, btw).
June 4th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Wiip,
No one really discusses the articles, because they are satire, and the trolling buried in them just sparks fanboys to argue over their boxes as if their lives depended on them.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
With Hans even, I mean.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
@rider of the short bus
Most definitly pickup the MGS Essentials Collection. Trying to find MGS1 is kinda hard to come by these days (it is 10 years old) and c’mon $10 a piece for 3 magnificant games is such a deal.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Oh, I see,
Ignore my response.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
@ paul
“Unless the 9 in that link is actually 9% I don’t see why you’re so happy.”
you obviously didnt read it then!
June 4th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
“You’re still full of it. You didn’t even know what Zak & Wiki was on your precious Wii, and had no clue about Folklore and some other games I mentioned on the PS3 before. So don’t even try to redeem yourself. Everyone here, including 360 fans dislike you. Just like in real life eh?”
Still on about Zak and Wiki I see? Maybe one of these days I’ll rummage through a bin at a flea market and find a copy. I could always use a new coaster.
“And your argument for continued support of the PS2 is garbage as well. Sony isn’t going to drop the price of the PS3 to your poverty level anytime soon. So sell that PS2 and get yourself some more Wii games.”
Ha, Fail.
As I said I have quite enough money to purchase a PS3. But its not really a matter of that anymore. Sony had their chance to continue with the domination they saw with the PS1 and PS2, and they pissed it away. Now even if the PS3 was $1, I still wouldn’t buy it. At this point my respect for it is so low that even if I got it for free I might not even sell it. Rather I would pull off a version of “Will it Blend” and post it on Youtube.
June 4th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
But after a Google search I see someone has beat me to the punch: http://www.smashmyps3.com/
June 4th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
@erik – Yeah, you sure showed me with those responses keri. “Ha, Fail” may suffice in your sick world, but not ours. Maybe if we all ignore you, you’ll dissapear. You might need help there with that Sony hatred, it sounds like it goes very deep. You need help.
And that stupid site, it’s old news. Like early last year news.
@the chosen one – That review is pretty bad. But they are free to think what they want, the game still got a 9 for a reason. S*it Famitsu just gave it a perfect score – which as only been done 7 times before in their magazine. Does that mean it’s that perfect? Not really. But to some it will be.
MGS4 is really something special. You can tell by reading the reviews. The way someone can give it a perfect score, and someone else can give it an 8, but still mention that there is nothing like it out there.
No other game would be able to get away with what MGS does, and the reason MGS gets away with it, is because it’s done so good.
Love it or hate it, it doesn’t matter. At the end of the day it’s gonna end up with a 90%+ average – including the reviews from people who the game wasn’t made for. I’m glad it isn’t a game that is watered down for the masses. That’s the problem with the industry right now. This is the reason I bought a PS3 and I can’t wait.
June 4th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Well, I decided to take ColdYellow’s advice, and I drove to Target (closest, and only, store near me) and lo and behold, they don’t have it. They don’t even stock it. They had FOUR ROWS of Iron Man and countless rows of Hotshots golf, and no MGS Essentials. So I guess I’ll just have it shipped through Amazon or go to a Gamecrazy or something. This always happens to me when I go to that Target…
I swear, they didn’t have Halo 3 OR GTAIV the first two weeks after their respective release dates.
June 4th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
@rider of the short bus
Don’t feel to bad about it, I went to pick up NG2 and GRID today. Well I got NG2 with no problem at all but I couldn’t find GRID for the life of me. I went to 5 stores looking for it and no luck at all.
June 4th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
@Stickemup
“Yeah, you sure showed me with those responses keri. “Ha, Fail†may suffice in your sick world, but not ours.”
And saying that I am impoverished may suffice in yours. But really it just boils down to useless assumptions with nothing to back it up.
“And that stupid site, it’s old news. Like early last year news.”
Some classics never age. I could watch that video over and over.
June 4th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Speaking of classics: MGS3: Snake Eater. That was a fun game. Once I replace my PS2 again I should pick it up again. Maybe on the day that 4 releases.
June 4th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
@keri – Umm yeeeeah. If you can watch that stupid video over and over…then I feel bad for you.
Bill Gates could slap my mother and steal the last $20 in my bank account, and I still wouldn’t care to watch a video where a 360 gets destroyed.
Glad you enjoyed Snake Eater, you would definately enjoy MGS4. EVERY single review I have read (9 in total I believe) has said it is the ultimate MGS game.
June 4th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
@keri
dude you got a unnatural hatred for a inanimate object. I’m not a big american car person (american muscle is the exception) but I don’t get my rocks off when I see a brand new chevy that got t-boned earlier that day being hauled off to the scrap yard.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:22 am
First off, they got blowjobs while they played? Damn lucky, too bad it’s not true. Second, the review pic actually made me laugh. And finally, is it me or are these reviews getting longer?
June 5th, 2008 at 4:17 am
WOW, SDF’d imagination must have been working OVERTIME this week.
Stop reviewing PS3 games cause even the most shittest game will get 10/10 witht eh usual beats the xbox 360 crap.
Start reviewing 360 and Wii games for the lulz.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:53 am
Just read a review which states that MGS4 has the option for noobs like me to view the back story at certain points, so even more HD cut-scene loveliness, Keri’s gonna be so jealous!
I’m getting this game because they’re catering to newcomers, and apparently you can play with a more gung-ho attitude than you could with the others (from what I’ve seen on youtube). So thanks to Stickemup and OldJello for your appraisal of this series, and to SDF for their awesome unbiased review, I now have another game to look forward to.
Whatever happens, surely I won’t be as disappointed as I was with GTAIV, that game has maybe 3 cars which are fun to drive. and maybe 10 songs which I can bear to listen to. Rockstar you bastards!
June 5th, 2008 at 7:27 am
@Stickemup
“you would definately enjoy MGS4.”
Highly doubtful.
June 5th, 2008 at 8:04 am
Hans,
Face it. Sony, that company who’s anus has your nose surgically planted in, is nothing but a bunch of hypocritical copycats!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Seriously, is there anyone who believes any of the crap on this website? The only thing I hate more than XBox 360 fanboys are fanboys of the console/ideas which I own/support.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:21 am
@echofly
no. it’s just a laugh
June 5th, 2008 at 10:58 am
First time I’ve agreed with you, Paul. Most of GTA4’s cars and songs were… eh. I used the cheats to spawn nicer cars, and I set my 360 up to stream music from my laptop. Problem solved.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:58 am
LOL. How did he cut his right arm holding the razor is his right arm.
Fucking stupid.
Oh yeah. GREAT REVIEW. very realistic and unbiased as well as honest.
KEEP IT GOING. YEAH.
fucking mindless corporation siding to boost ones feeling of security (Superiority) in life with a video game CONSOLE.
FUCK
June 5th, 2008 at 11:16 am
@Waffles
The even more amazing thing is how he is even clutching the razor with it floating outside of his grasp.
June 5th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
He cut his arm with the razor, and switched hands to show everyone the razor.
June 5th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Switched hands? That would be possible if it was actually clutched in his fingers and not floating in front of them.
This just in, a special update from Morbo:
“Blood doesn’t work that way! Good night!”
Seriously, this is SDF’s worst Photoshop job ever. And that is really saying something
June 5th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
To make a good job of that particular photoshop would have been bad taste, even for SDF!
Let’s not forget the pure excellence surrounding that image, in fact I’m reading it again, you guys need to grow up!
June 5th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Look at that image carefully.
There’s a PS3 controller in the background.
Even Greenberg has defected, before suiciding, of course.
June 5th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Your hack photoshop job is sort of drawing the attention away from that controller Hans
June 5th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
OK I’ve finished reading. Questions: What’s a metal gear? and just how solid is it? and what does 4 mean?
June 5th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Haha, if the story of the trip isn’t complete lie, I will kill myself my shoving irony up my nose until I suffocate.
June 5th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
@Paul
A metal gear is a war machine in the game.
Thing of a tank on legs.
pretty solid. except inside lol, or no room for pilot or fuel.
And if you add 4 to 38, you get the answer to life, the universe and everything
Im not a 360 fanboy but ive given up on the MGS series,
number one was brilliant. one of the best games of all time.
but number 2, the story was confusing as hell. made me lose interest in the series
June 5th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
@hans
damn your delusional and morbid. I though keri was fucked in the head but you take the cake for wanting someone to die. Since you wish ill will on someone who doesn’t share the same tastes then I suggest you become a staunch supporter of the christian reformed since there becoming the new catholism.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
So what is the answer to life, the universe and everything?…….tricky
I love that line.
You shouldn’t give up on the series altogether, I maybe a total noob but something tells me this game’s gonna be the shizzle, or something. And that’s not just blind fanboyism, I have a genuine feeling in my water about it, stings a little.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
@Paul
I think that should of been “the MEANING of life”…Muppet!
@Jello
We can talk about all kinds o’shite here, but religion!!! I wouldn’t even talk about that down the boozer.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
If the right wing Christian conservatives take over this country…I’m moving to Europe, or something. Youtube Jesus Camp to see what I mean. Those people are just weird. I’m fine with religion, just not fanaticism.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
@rideroftheshortbus
I have seen that video and it is not only weird but creepy. Shit they almost but Bush on the same level of Jesus. If the Christian Right take over this country then its off to either Poland, Italy, or the UK.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Yeah, I was thinking Italy myself. Nice country.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Hans,
The only thing you don’t fail at doing, so failing.
#1. Obvious photoshop.
#2. BADLY don’t photoshop.
#3. He’s holding the badly photoshoped razor on the same arm with the badly photoshopped cut, how did he do that? Magic rubber arms?
#4. You obviously weren’t beaten enough as a child.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
@ rider of the short bus
yea i watched that vid to it was fucked up especially those little kids im suprised they dopnt call themselves god warriors o go and look at hitler gets banned it’s funny shit
June 5th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Yeah, I saw Hitler gets banned. Made me laugh all day.
I went to Gamecrazy today, and they didn’t have the game either. So I ordered it off of Amazon, selected the 3-5 day shipping(cheapest) and it said the delivery date was June 20. Huh.
June 5th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
@keri – You’re a sick puppy.
@sixaxis – You’re not too far behind.
I really hope you guys are like 14 or something.
June 5th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Haters, Haters, Haters….Face it, MGS4 is a good game, personally I hated one thing in the other MGS’s, the FPS standard and the inability to move in in out of cover in more or less a crouch mode, both of which have been changed and made, at least to me, better. If you dislike MGS4, esspecially without playing it, you’re simply just hating, and that is ignorant on so many levels and says a lot about character. If I dislike a game, I’ll say it, and If I like it, I’ll say it, therefore I will say…Viva Pinata is one of the best baby games ever! and LBP looks just as fun and I like to play some me some baby games! And MGS is just as awesome it appears to me, so shut up and decide for yourself by making a educated choice based on how much you like games of a certain type rather than bridling up on oh, I hate X game studio or X console developer X much therefore all their games are horrible! I like games! You like games probably if you come to this site (or maybe are looking for some kind of forest fire, read: flame war by saying 360 or PS3 sucks!) admit when a game is good! suck it up! no matter what systems you own! By the way, to be fair, MGS portable op on PSP sucked after a while, the online is horrible and the controls dont convert well to a PSP and the maps get repetitive. I love my 360, so that may qualify as a bit of fanboyism if I’m a little protective of my respective system a few times, but I will not fail to admit what my console does right and what it does wrong, usually no more or less than many other systems (though not owning a PS3 makes my statements a little more uneducated possibly)
By the way, I instantly hate most people who mention the RROD, at least in a anti 360 rant. It’s becoming so old, and most people who mention it more than….7 times have almost never owned a 360, at least a new one or a refurbished fixed one (I’m not sure but I think the heatsink on even refurbs is fixed now, so you’re a little less likely to get one now. It becomes sad when you hate the people who mention RROD than the RROD itself.
Rant over.
June 5th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Hey Hans, explain away the photo in this article:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/aaron-greenberg/xbox-360-will-have-7-million-sellers-at-christmas-313843.php
June 6th, 2008 at 12:21 am
That’s an obvious photoshop of Kotaku stolen from my article.
June 6th, 2008 at 2:37 am
That guy looks like shit! His expression makes much more sense in the razor pic.
June 6th, 2008 at 5:20 am
Then I assume that Kotaku has magical time traveling powers, as that article was posted in October of last year.
June 6th, 2008 at 6:19 am
Give it up Hans, it’s over
Joke failed.
June 6th, 2008 at 7:15 am
LOL, look at the last pic, the guy has cut his wrists after playing a POS3.
Also, you all keep going on about the PS3 outselling the 360. So what, just cause people are buying the PS3 as a cheap Bluray player doesnt mean it’s a better console than the 360.
Plus, the 360 will NEVER take off in Japan, not because the PS3 is better (the japs dont like the PS3 either) it’s because the 360 is a western made console, not a japanese console. Had the 360 been a jap made product the 360 would have been a MASSIVE hit in the land of the jap snipers.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:19 am
Had the 360 been a Japanese made (reliable) product, the 1+ year head-start would have been decisive.
June 6th, 2008 at 8:21 am
@Hans
Not only you ripped that pic off and did a horrible photoshop of it, also its dated on June 12th 2008 and hate to break it to you its actually june 6th.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:08 am
@Paul
Japanese made products dont make them reliable. The PSone, PS2, PS3, and Wii all have thier own fair share of problems just like the 360. Just the only difference being was the first batch of 360’s were prone to RROD, very rare these days but it happened yet you all go on about it constantly cause theres nothing else to bash the 360 on.
It’s a known fact that had the 360 not been rushed and initially suffered from the RROD and had a HD DVD built in, the PS3 would have been the biggest flop since the Virtual Boy.
Sony want to count themselves lucky that the 360 had these problems, had they not then the 360 would have blown it out of the water before the PS3 even started.
Almost 2 years on and the PS3 has only just started to get some decent AAA games, well 2 really GTA4 and MGS4. That is very pathetic considering it’s been out for just under 2 years.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:42 am
@OldJello
I think the idea is that the fat bloke tops himself on June 12th (MGS4 release date), thus implying that Snake finishes his mission to destroy 360.
SDF reveal the future as well as bring us awesome reviews. Someone should phone that fat bloke and tell him it’s not worth it.
June 6th, 2008 at 10:42 am
@Escape – The same people – on both sides – that are quick to hate on Gears and MGS4 would be the first to go buy those games if they weren’t exclusives to the other consoles. I wouldn’t waste my time hating on Gears or Halo, because I know regardless of how I feel, they are very good games for the people that are fans.
keri and sixaxis are just ridiculous.
Oh, and the way you feel about Sony fans always mentioning the RROD is the same way Sony fans feel about the “no games” comment
Stupid kids huh?
June 6th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Lol! Paul is a Jap-o-phile.
*does the slanty eyes thing*
I bet you like me better now!
June 6th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Also Hans, blood looks nothing like that.
It’s not even shaded properly to match the lighting in the photo, and neither is the razor blade. If you’re going to lie, do it RIGHT!
June 6th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
I just don’t see why people need to start console wars. You basically get nothing out of slandering the other console; it won’t make yours any better or worse. Does it make you feel better about your console to trash the others? Why can’t you just enjoy the one you bought, and let others enjoy the ones they bought.
June 6th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
@Hans
I’m still wondering about those ads.
@Stickemup
Waitwaitwait…
You say erik and six1s are ridiculous, but then support Paul? Erik is indeed ridiculous, but six1s and Paul pretty much use the same form of insults.. Six1s is against the PS3, and Paul is for it. Six1s is apparently ridiculous, but Paul is fine. Oh, the irony.
On a happier note, parents have just realized that I didn’t want a no-longer existing $600 PS3.
June 6th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
I think you mean hypocrisy, which is quite befitting, still. And erik is hardly anywhere near the level of Hans absurdity. Paul’s just great at angering people.
June 6th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
@rider of the short bus
Fanboys need to justify there purchase and there whole existence is the supposed successes of there respective console (sales, software line-up, and the pros of the hardware). Unfortunatly there such close minded motherfuckers they can’t see the positives of the other consoles and can only point out the negatives and most of the time they have no idea what they’re talking about.
In case of this site they tend to trash the competition more than tell the news about there own respective system. Now there’s nothing wrong with “fansites” as long it can remain pretty unbiased.
June 6th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
The reason he supports Paul, and even types like him is because it’s that same guy!
June 6th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
@Fatster
You think the 360 simply had it’s fair share of problems? I was on my third after 7 months, that’s a very greedy share.
@NinSony$haft
Stickemup ain’t my supporter, he has more sense than that, and I wouldn’t have it any other way, Having no allies means I can be totally obnoxious without letting anyone down.
@Wiiping
“Paul’s just great…” Thanks dude.
June 6th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
@Stickemup
“The same people – on both sides – that are quick to hate on Gears and MGS4 would be the first to go buy those games if they weren’t exclusives to the other consoles”
Would I play MGS4 if it wasn’t on Sony’s “Fuck you!” system to the people who supported them for years? Perhaps. Would I still listen to Metallica if they hadn’t become lawyer assholes who sued they people who made them who they are? Perhaps.
June 6th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
^^^Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!
June 6th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
^^^Has to refer to me as a woman in order to try and justify his raging sexual attraction to me.
Don’t worry Peter-Puffer-Paul. Gay is in!
June 6th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
@ Sickemup
I swear I was thinking that last night as I typed that up, how old are some of these people?! Seiously, I’m not that old myself at all, but seriously sometimes the barbs get so childish and the attacks grow so nonrelated to the topic at hand that I begin to wonder. I actually went on youtube and looked at some real, hardcore fanboys, they speak so much rhetoric, and hardly ever say anything cohesive and important, simple phrases basically which, while they may come through with different words, always seem to come out to in one way or another ‘My console is better.’ What’s worse is how misinformed many are. Truly, truly misinformed, and purposely misguiding and lying to get their console the upper hand. It’s truly sad.
@erik
Sony always was arrogant, but by no means is the PS3 is fuck you, I think If they really wanted to screw their fanbase they would have charged more. New tech is always expensive, and I think they were getting red ink every time a console was sold, so basically they were sacrificing a bit of money in hopes of snagging new people and longtime players. 360 was the same way, they lost over $100 with every sale. I’m pretty sure, unless the PS3 were to come out 6-12 months later when the costs of producing their console were lower, would you ever have seen a 400 dollar PS3 model. I’m not saying the PS3 wasn’t expensive, but it certainly wasn’t trying to purposely alienate its users, that would be very counterproductive. Unfortunately, they seem to have alienated you. And if the PS3 had come out any later…it would’ve definitely come in last in sales, another thing not planned in the Sony playbook, or any competitive markets plans.
June 6th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Sickemup?…Ps3 pwns…like hardcore pwn!
June 6th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
@Escapethefate
“but it certainly wasn’t trying to purposely alienate its users, that would be very counterproductive.”
And yet they did just that. After the SNE’s run ended I owned nothing but sony systems. I didn’t own a N64, I didn’t own a Gamecube and I never dreamed of owning an Xbox. And yet now after the PS3 comes out, I own every current system EXCEPT the PS3. Quite a turn around eh?
June 6th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Paul is freakin’ hilarious, and his comments are so different from sixaxis’ and keri’s. Is he over the top? Of course! But that’s what makes it funny.
When keri and sixaxis make a comment it’s something like this:
“I hope the PS3 burns in hell next to Hitler, I swear if I had a PS3 in front of me right now I would slit it’s throat and pour chicken blood all over it. I could watch that smash my PS3 video all day, over and over and over…”
Ok, so maybe the first part is a lil’ over the top, but come on! Just read the comment keri made above me.
@keri – It sounds like if the Playstation brand was your girlfriend, and ended up leaving you for some rich dude. I swear. Every comment you make has to do with you hating Sony for “betraying” you.
Trying to start a revolution over a damn console. Get over it already. If you don’t have an extra $100, we’ll all pitch in and get you that PS3.
June 6th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
And thanks for your continued support of the Sony Playstation brand. Sony and the PS2 appreciate you keri.
June 6th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
@erik
So what you’re saying is this, “after many years of supporting the PS brand, you feel like sony made a console that not only was overhyped, priced, but mostly it underdelivered in terms what sony promised. Most of all you felt betrayed as a gamer and insulted by the PR for the machine”.
If thats how you feel then I understand for the most part.
June 6th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
If you’re gonna start a flame on this, don’t I just thought it was interesting.
http://kotaku.com/5014168/mgs4-2006-v-mgs4-2008
Like I said, don’t and I mean it, it’s totally not worth it, I just thought it was interesting to see and that. is. it. But knowing people here they’ll go like….totally look Sony liez so much!11! There, I said it so you don’t have to. It actually looks pretty close in some areas.
June 6th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
well, almost exact, except for color saturation. for my other comment awaiting moderation.
June 6th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
@Stickemup
“If you don’t have an extra $100, we’ll all pitch in and get you that PS3.”
Okay once more: I can afford a PS3. But I do not want a PS3. I would not accept a PS3 even if given to me for free.
Now if any word in the above eludes your understanding then let me know.
@ColdYellow
““after many years of supporting the PS brand, you feel like sony made a console that not only was overhyped, priced, but mostly it underdelivered in terms what sony promised. Most of all you felt betrayed as a gamer and insulted by the PR for the machineâ€.”
Essentially yes. But I’m not sure what you mean by underdelivered. As far as what it has, if anything it overdelivers in some areas. Like some car dealer trying to strong arm you into buying a car with a smoothie maker which bumps up the price an extra $2000, when all you want is a regular damn car.
The PS3 seems to be all about the tech specs. As where the PS2 wasn’t so much as it was more about the library. Hence my opinion that the PS3 is all glitz and no substance.
Just about every PS3 game review I read (both real ones and SDF’s) seem to start and primarily contain “OMG Teh GrAFIX!”
June 6th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
As I’ve stated before.
Sony’s additude is that of Nintendo’s when they released the N64. Nothing turns me away from a company faster then that kind of additude. Sony isn’t going to place first this gen! It will humble them, and they will stop acting like douches. The PS4 will be a better console for it!
June 6th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
@six1s
Well sony it seems did get humbled a quite a bit. C’mon they thought everyone was going to automatically just rush out and buy the PS3 no matter the cost or if it had no games (I remember Kaz Hirai saying something of that nature) and they where wrong. So it was sonys lost and nintendos (mostly) and MS gain.
What will be interesting though is what will happen when MS releases new hardware and forces sony to once again catch up.
June 7th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
great review, i agree with it 100% put all the 360 and wii games together and that cant even tough mgs4
June 7th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Well it’s also nice seeing Sonys fanboys eat it.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
What I find hilarious with the picture of Aaron Greenberg slitting his wrist, is the fact that he is slitting it with a PS3 controller in view.
Clearly he is trying to give himself more fun than playing Haze or Lair but cutting himself.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Oops sorry that last bit was ment to say “By cutting himself”
I was laughing too much whilst typing it.
June 13th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
stop saying that all Ps3 games are, as OXM would call it”Mecha Godzilla’s choice”, when evar i see games reviewed on this site they give it a perfect score and say its flawless(Ratchet and Clank)at least actually reviw them.
@trivium-”great review, i agree with it 100% put all the 360 and wii games together and that cant even tough mgs4″
i dont belive that Mgs4 is that much of a good game. no game is,so please stop with the fanboyism.you freakin asshole are the ones ruining the stites in were we discuss games.cant we all say that the games is good ,but not go overboard, and disscuss its pros and cons without someone srewing it up.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
i love this website so much, mostly just because its funny to see people take this seriously. this website is the most well orchestrated joke i’ve seen.
however, a little side note on mgs4…as an mgs fan it’s really great…as a game fan, i can see its flaws. action is still kinda clumsy and cutscenes are really a bit of a bore a lot of the time. it hasn’t dethroned kotor for the pc as my favorite game. the review i agree with most is http://thesillyaddiction.com/2008/06/dubious-reviews-metal-gear-solid-4/
June 17th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Played the game….too short but still a fine game.
July 7th, 2008 at 3:20 am
The Aaron Greenburg part just got me laughing my ass off so hard, harder then Laughing Octopus lol No seriously that’s the uglyest moment SDF had put out thus far, just look at the picture of before and after HAHAHA!
July 7th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
I’m not gonna criticize MGS4… but this review is priceless!
Silk pajamas?! Golden throne?! Female assistants?! What the fuck is this shit??!!
July 7th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Oh yeah… SDF spelled “pajamas” wrong in this article.
July 16th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Is it just me, or could the fact that you received sexual favours from Kojima’s staff possibly affect the review?
Oh, and how big is the team, because judging by the videos, that poor girl had a lot of unpleasant work to get done.
July 17th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
the only reason aside from the new ratchet that i would want a ps3 i find it kinda dumb people complain about the super long cutscenes i would watch em all but they are skippable
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:24 am
So Microsoft sending you merchandising for GTAIV (which they didn’t do) is bribery, but Kojima sending hookers to give you blowjobs for MGS4 (which he didn’t do) isn’t?