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	<title>Comments on: Gamasutra: 360 Gamers Defecting To PS3 For Holiday Sequels (The Slim Effect™)</title>
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		<title>By: xboxrules</title>
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		<dc:creator>xboxrules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 06:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps3 barely get any addons for multiplatform games sdf failed another time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps3 barely get any addons for multiplatform games sdf failed another time</p>
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		<title>By: McQuellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>McQuellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how Sony spent so much money trying to convince us that Assassins Creed II was just for PS3 (all the commercials prominently displayed &quot;for PS3&quot; with no XBOX 360 mentioned anywhere), because the XBOX version still outsold it by at least a million units. Thats just shameful. By the way, hows that whole PS3 profitability thing coming? You guys ever break-even on the hardware?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how Sony spent so much money trying to convince us that Assassins Creed II was just for PS3 (all the commercials prominently displayed &#8220;for PS3&#8243; with no XBOX 360 mentioned anywhere), because the XBOX version still outsold it by at least a million units. Thats just shameful. By the way, hows that whole PS3 profitability thing coming? You guys ever break-even on the hardware?</p>
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		<title>By: seven2s</title>
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		<dc:creator>seven2s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sure hope they aren&#039;t leaving for AC2.
Because, oh dear, the 360 version is superior. http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=16415</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sure hope they aren&#8217;t leaving for AC2.<br />
Because, oh dear, the 360 version is superior. <a href="http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=16415" rel="nofollow">http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=16415</a></p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tendonut

My point remains.  When I say I hate something, I hate something. I&#039;m not assuming anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tendonut</p>
<p>My point remains.  When I say I hate something, I hate something. I&#8217;m not assuming anything.</p>
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		<title>By: tendonut</title>
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		<dc:creator>tendonut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@erik

It wasn&#039;t totally crazy to assume you wouldn&#039;t like Killzone 2 since the first one sucked balls not only for you, but for the general population. But to totally hate on every major release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@erik</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t totally crazy to assume you wouldn&#8217;t like Killzone 2 since the first one sucked balls not only for you, but for the general population. But to totally hate on every major release.</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also

&quot;You just don’t WANT the PS3 to have any good games. That what it really is. And when one comes along, you assume you’ll hate it or don’t even acknowledge it.&quot;

When it comes to what I like and what I don&#039;t like I don&#039;t assume anything.  I&#039;m pretty familiar with my likes and dislikes you see.  I dare say that I know my likes and dislikes more so than other people know my likes and dislikes.

I knew that going into it that I did not like Killzone 2.  I did not let any experience from actually playing the game to taint or factor in in any way my already decided opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also</p>
<p>&#8220;You just don’t WANT the PS3 to have any good games. That what it really is. And when one comes along, you assume you’ll hate it or don’t even acknowledge it.&#8221;</p>
<p>When it comes to what I like and what I don&#8217;t like I don&#8217;t assume anything.  I&#8217;m pretty familiar with my likes and dislikes you see.  I dare say that I know my likes and dislikes more so than other people know my likes and dislikes.</p>
<p>I knew that going into it that I did not like Killzone 2.  I did not let any experience from actually playing the game to taint or factor in in any way my already decided opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tendonut

&quot;You have nothing to gain from that attitude.&quot;

That&#039;s not true.  Had I adopted this attitude sooner I might not have tortured myself by playing Uncharted.

&quot;That’s what is nice about news aggregator websites. It’s not just one person’s review. For a big game, it could be 100+ professional reviews.&quot;

I&#039;ve learned not to trust news aggregator websites.  Even those gave tripe such as Uncharted and Killzone 2 high scores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tendonut</p>
<p>&#8220;You have nothing to gain from that attitude.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not true.  Had I adopted this attitude sooner I might not have tortured myself by playing Uncharted.</p>
<p>&#8220;That’s what is nice about news aggregator websites. It’s not just one person’s review. For a big game, it could be 100+ professional reviews.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve learned not to trust news aggregator websites.  Even those gave tripe such as Uncharted and Killzone 2 high scores.</p>
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		<title>By: tendonut</title>
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		<dc:creator>tendonut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@erik

&quot;Maybe if something comes along that somehow manages to catch my interest. But that is a very big longshot, so I’m not holding my breath.&quot;

I&#039;m not holding my breath either. Whenever a game worthy of playing comes out, you want to know nothing about it and pretend it doesn&#039;t exist. You even did that to God of War 3, a game series i&#039;m sure you loved on the PS2.  So the fantasy world in your mind can continue to live on where the PS3 has absolutely no good games at all, while the rest of the world will play things you&#039;re missing out on. You just don&#039;t WANT the PS3 to have any good games. That what it really is. And when one comes along, you assume you&#039;ll hate it or don&#039;t even acknowledge it. You have nothing to gain from that attitude. 

&quot;No. I’ve learned not to trust scores when it comes to PS3 games&quot;

That&#039;s what is nice about news aggregator websites. It&#039;s not just one person&#039;s review. For a big game, it could be 100+ professional reviews. Not all of them are going to have sympathy for Sony and give them some pity scores. Maybe GamePro, but not reputable sites. 

This argument just reminds me of some older people I know that refuse to buy Japanese cars because &quot;the japs bombed Pearl Harbor&quot;. The excuse is outdated, they are missing out on quality cars, and are coming off as just being ignorant old hateful bastards. Everyone else is happy driving around their Camry&#039;s and Corollas (which are both made in the US now, but they don&#039;t want to know nothin&#039; about nothin&#039;), but those old bastards just can&#039;t give up the hate they (rightfully) started 60+ years ago and get with the friggin&#039; program that is 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@erik</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe if something comes along that somehow manages to catch my interest. But that is a very big longshot, so I’m not holding my breath.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not holding my breath either. Whenever a game worthy of playing comes out, you want to know nothing about it and pretend it doesn&#8217;t exist. You even did that to God of War 3, a game series i&#8217;m sure you loved on the PS2.  So the fantasy world in your mind can continue to live on where the PS3 has absolutely no good games at all, while the rest of the world will play things you&#8217;re missing out on. You just don&#8217;t WANT the PS3 to have any good games. That what it really is. And when one comes along, you assume you&#8217;ll hate it or don&#8217;t even acknowledge it. You have nothing to gain from that attitude. </p>
<p>&#8220;No. I’ve learned not to trust scores when it comes to PS3 games&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what is nice about news aggregator websites. It&#8217;s not just one person&#8217;s review. For a big game, it could be 100+ professional reviews. Not all of them are going to have sympathy for Sony and give them some pity scores. Maybe GamePro, but not reputable sites. </p>
<p>This argument just reminds me of some older people I know that refuse to buy Japanese cars because &#8220;the japs bombed Pearl Harbor&#8221;. The excuse is outdated, they are missing out on quality cars, and are coming off as just being ignorant old hateful bastards. Everyone else is happy driving around their Camry&#8217;s and Corollas (which are both made in the US now, but they don&#8217;t want to know nothin&#8217; about nothin&#8217;), but those old bastards just can&#8217;t give up the hate they (rightfully) started 60+ years ago and get with the friggin&#8217; program that is 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tendonut

&quot;What games do you actually own? (being serious though, I want to know) We know you at least owned Uncharted 1. &quot;

No I rented Uncharted 1.  I own MGS4, Little Big Planet, Resistance, InFamous, Bad Company, and Silent Hill Homecoming.

&quot;Just go to some review aggregator website. Skip all the garbage, sort by highest score and look at the handful that are in the 9’s and the upper 8’s. Then discard the sports games ones (unless you are into that), and those are the games to target.&quot;

No.  I&#039;ve learned not to trust scores when it comes to PS3 games.  I don&#039;t know if the reviewers are just taking pity on Sony or what and throwing them a few high scores.  But it was scores that lead me to tripe such as Uncharted and Killzone 2.

&quot;You already have the system, play the damn games.&quot;

No.  

Maybe if something comes along that somehow manages to catch my interest.  But that is a very big longshot, so I&#039;m not holding my breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tendonut</p>
<p>&#8220;What games do you actually own? (being serious though, I want to know) We know you at least owned Uncharted 1. &#8221;</p>
<p>No I rented Uncharted 1.  I own MGS4, Little Big Planet, Resistance, InFamous, Bad Company, and Silent Hill Homecoming.</p>
<p>&#8220;Just go to some review aggregator website. Skip all the garbage, sort by highest score and look at the handful that are in the 9’s and the upper 8’s. Then discard the sports games ones (unless you are into that), and those are the games to target.&#8221;</p>
<p>No.  I&#8217;ve learned not to trust scores when it comes to PS3 games.  I don&#8217;t know if the reviewers are just taking pity on Sony or what and throwing them a few high scores.  But it was scores that lead me to tripe such as Uncharted and Killzone 2.</p>
<p>&#8220;You already have the system, play the damn games.&#8221;</p>
<p>No.  </p>
<p>Maybe if something comes along that somehow manages to catch my interest.  But that is a very big longshot, so I&#8217;m not holding my breath.</p>
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		<title>By: tendonut</title>
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		<dc:creator>tendonut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@erik

You already made the investment. That&#039;s the big hurdle. Buying a system that may or may not have games for it. But now that it DOES have good games, what is the point of ignoring them? You are the only one losing here.  You already have the system, play the damn games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@erik</p>
<p>You already made the investment. That&#8217;s the big hurdle. Buying a system that may or may not have games for it. But now that it DOES have good games, what is the point of ignoring them? You are the only one losing here.  You already have the system, play the damn games.</p>
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